Flash Forecast: Shortage Persists Into Mid-2018, Retail Pricing Steady

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  • 2Be_or_Not2Be
    Guess that means I won't see a price drop on the Samsung 960 Pro anytime soon.
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  • takeshi7
    I smell collusion and price fixing. It's not like the DRAM/NAND manufacturers haven't done it before, and it's extremely fishy that all of them decided to shut down their fabs to transition to 3D all at once.
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  • hannibal
    It means that prices will get higher, because demand is higher than production.
    It also means that the prices will stay high quite long after the shortage is getting better. New ssd 2019?
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  • dudmont
    20049838 said:
    I smell collusion and price fixing. It's not like the DRAM/NAND manufacturers haven't done it before, and it's extremely fishy that all of them decided to shut down their fabs to transition to 3D all at once.

    The efforts required to hold a collusion group together aren't ever strong enough, the incentive to cheat is always stronger. One word, OPEC. ;)
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  • I agree collusion is likely. Remember the collusion of RAM in from 1998 to 2002? The key players

    "Among the companies involved were major electronics players including Hitachi, Hynix, Samsung and Toshiba."

    Do any of these companies sound familiar?
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  • takeshi7
    20049996 said:
    I agree collusion is likely. Remember the collusion of RAM in from 1998 to 2002? The key players

    "Among the companies involved were major electronics players including Hitachi, Hynix, Samsung and Toshiba."

    Do any of these companies sound familiar?

    Don't forget about Micron and Infineon, who were also found guilty.
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  • plateLunch
    Where are the Samsung fabs located? You ain't seen nothing yet in prices if North Korea blows up the Samsung fabs.
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  • CRamseyer
    Samsung has a couple in South Korea and a couple in China that produce NAND. I thought about adding something about that but thought best to leave it out. North Korea has threatened war a few times a year for the last thirty years.

    The other variable is Toshiba vs. Western Digital/SanDisk. I also left that out because I can't predict the outcome.
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  • mikewinddale
    "That's why you'll now be able to use up to four CPUs and up to 6TB of memory, which is double and triple, respectively, what's supported in Windows 10 Pro right now."

    I'm confused. This implies that until now, Windows has only supported 2 CPUs. But consumer-grade Intel Core processors have been quad-core for a long time now. And I've never heard of anyone having problems with 6/8/10/12-core Broadwell-E processors in Windows. Nor have I heard any problems with using Ryzen with Windows.

    And I've got a quad-core AMD with multithreading, and Windows has no problem acting as if it has 8 logical CPUs.

    So what's the story?
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  • CRamseyer
    It means physical CPUs and not cores.
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