Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in

Rumor: Apple to Switch Back to Nvidia for 2012 GPUs

By - Source: Semi Accurate | B 80 comments

Out with the new, in with the old?

Just a few years after it switched from Nvidia to AMD, Apple is once again rumored to be switching things up when it comes to graphics for its Mac line of computers. Semi Accurate cites sources that say Nvidia has won the next round of Macs, likely starting with the Ivy Bridge models set to arrive next Spring.

"About three years after the decision to boot Nvidia out of the company was made, and two years after the first ATI/AMD Macs in recent memory hit the shelves, you will see Nvidia Macs reappearing," Charlie Demerjian writes.

According to Demerjin, part of the reason for the switch was an earlier decision not to use AMD microprocessors in the Macbook Air. The story goes that Apple and AMD were working on an AMD Llano-based MacBook Air last spring but the machine was cancelled despite being 'really, really close to production' because of supply issues. The switch to Nvidia from AMD is seen as one of the 'repercussions' from that deal falling through.

The last Macs to pack Nvidia GPUs were the early-2010 MacBook Pros. However, as Semi Accurate points out, the market for GPUs at Apple is shrinking as integrated solutions from companies like Intel flourish and notebooks become smaller and thinner. Apple may still be using AMD for discrete graphics for its larger notebooks but it has switched its smaller laptops to Intel-only solutions.

Discuss
Ask a Category Expert

Create a new thread in the News comments forum about this subject

Example: Notebook, Android, SSD hard drive

This thread is closed for comments
Top Comments
  • 35 Hide
    alhanelem , November 25, 2011 12:17 PM
    why bother?
    Macs cant run games
  • 26 Hide
    dirtyferret , November 25, 2011 12:49 PM
    putting a gaming video card in a mac is like putting a cocktail dress on a fat chick, it's not attractive and only good for a laugh
  • 13 Hide
    captaincharisma , November 25, 2011 2:17 PM
    CaedenVApple will always choose the perceived winner in the pro markets for their products no matter their performance. AMD had a strong name just a year ago on their GPU and APU lines, and so they were willing to work with them. After the bad press of bulldozer (whether true or not), AMD will now be ejected from apple products because they are afraid that their elitist customers may think twice about buying something with an AMD label on it. OS-X may not even be susceptible to the issues of bulldozer (as Win8 supposedly isn't), but the media says AMD=fail, and that is all that apple customers are going to care about.


    you could throw an old matrox or S3 video card in the apple macbooks and the apple sheep will still pay thousands of bucks for it
Other Comments
    Display all 80 comments.
  • -4 Hide
    Marco925 , November 25, 2011 12:07 PM
    And watch the prices go Up Up Up!
  • 12 Hide
    back_by_demand , November 25, 2011 12:15 PM
    nVidia's cheque must have cleared
  • 35 Hide
    alhanelem , November 25, 2011 12:17 PM
    why bother?
    Macs cant run games
  • 6 Hide
    de5_Roy , November 25, 2011 12:24 PM
    this is one of the biggest in-your-face-amd-fanboys proof of glofo's production issues with their 32 nm node.
    llano's versatility as a decent cpu and a strong gpu interested apple. if glofo provided apple with enough llanos, amd could have made a !@#$ load of money there. amd could have taken up an even larger share of gpu market from leader intel and 3rd place nvidia. not to mention llano could have resulted in a (hopefully) cheaper macbook air.
    intel's success in being chosen by apple is only a rebound choice. :p 
    amd's trouble will only grow because next year intel will have ivb. amd's trinity is nowhere in sight. i think i saw wikipedia's entry about trinity's release date changed from q1 2012 to h1 2012.
    unless...you want to see dr laptops with fx. (i keep thinking about that for some reason :p )
  • 4 Hide
    Anonymous , November 25, 2011 12:24 PM
    I stopped reading the crap from semiaccurate a long time ago. I try to avoid extremely biased sources.
  • 10 Hide
    fazers_on_stun , November 25, 2011 12:31 PM
    Quote:
    this is one of the biggest in-your-face-amd-fanboys proof of glofo's production issues with their 32 nm node.
    llano's versatility as a decent cpu and a strong gpu interested apple. if glofo provided apple with enough llanos, amd could have made a !@#$ load of money there. amd could have taken up an even larger share of gpu market from leader intel and 3rd place nvidia. not to mention llano could have resulted in a (hopefully) cheaper macbook air.
    intel's success in being chosen by apple is only a rebound choice. :p 
    amd's trouble will only grow because next year intel will have ivb. amd's trinity is nowhere in sight. i think i saw wikipedia's entry about trinity's release date changed from q1 2012 to h1 2012.
    unless...you want to see dr laptops with fx. (i keep thinking about that for some reason :p )


    Yeah - the article is old news by now and has been discussed in several threads, but I agree - esp. the fact that AMD couldn't promise enough of the high-end Llano's due to yield problems with GF, has cost them a potentially pretty lucrative deal with Apple. According to some other rumors, AMD is pulling their 28nm production (Brazos updates anyway) from GF and going with TSMC. I dunno if the Southern Islands (AMD 7xxx GPUs) are affected or not, but if I were Rory Read, I'd pull those from GF as well, seeing as how some reports show TSMC's 28nm process to be around 45% higher performance than their 40nm process.

    I think AMD already knew this some time ago, and is one of the reasons for the recent 10% workforce layoffs. If they stay with GF as their fab, they're probably going to get in even more difficulty. So, time to pull the plug..
  • 9 Hide
    EightyFour , November 25, 2011 12:38 PM
    this means is that you're now overpaying for slightly different hardware?
  • 4 Hide
    sonofliberty08 , November 25, 2011 12:48 PM
    yawn... buzz me if there are fusion or tegra mac
  • 26 Hide
    dirtyferret , November 25, 2011 12:49 PM
    putting a gaming video card in a mac is like putting a cocktail dress on a fat chick, it's not attractive and only good for a laugh
  • 10 Hide
    ojas , November 25, 2011 1:18 PM
    sad times for AMD...and it's tough for them, poor chaps. Nvidia's twice as big in terms of capital and Intel's 30 times bigger.

    I think the only thing stopping Intel/Nvidia from buying AMD/ATI is an anti-trust lawsuit.

    Actually, Intel could buy both AMD and Nvidia...and maybe even ARM...VIA is a bit big, but certainly within their budget. lol.

    Though going by this logic, Apple could probably buy IBM or MS.

    All sad thoughts...
  • 3 Hide
    Goldengoose , November 25, 2011 1:29 PM
    Bad news for AMD. When the change does happen it might be worth getting some stocks with them, they are due another share price rise 2015-2020 (had a peak in 1995, then again in 2005).
  • 1 Hide
    enewmen , November 25, 2011 1:42 PM
    fazers_on_stunYeah - the article is old news by now and has been discussed in several threads, but I agree - esp. the fact that AMD couldn't promise enough of the high-end Llano's due to yield problems with GF, has cost them a potentially pretty lucrative deal with Apple. According to some other rumors, AMD is pulling their 28nm production (Brazos updates anyway) from GF and going with TSMC. I dunno if the Southern Islands (AMD 7xxx GPUs) are affected or not, but if I were Rory Read, I'd pull those from GF as well, seeing as how some reports show TSMC's 28nm process to be around 45% higher performance than their 40nm process. I think AMD already knew this some time ago, and is one of the reasons for the recent 10% workforce layoffs. If they stay with GF as their fab, they're probably going to get in even more difficulty. So, time to pull the plug..

    I will be pissed to..
  • -8 Hide
    captaincharisma , November 25, 2011 1:55 PM
    looks like apple smells death off of AMD too
  • 11 Hide
    ojas , November 25, 2011 1:58 PM
    jimmy-beeLots of haters, price a Sony Vio or another comparable computer to a Mac and you will surprised that your bias is unwarranted.

    am i wrong or are you comparing a laptop to a similarly priced desktop? I mean if they are at all, not saying i checked.

    rppbut macs rock i hate windows but why bother?Macs cant run gamesi have a big windows 7 gameing rig but you jmmy-bee dont understand its apple that can make gpus but is lazy and does not steve jobs said apple will make gpus in 2010 but apple still does not make gpus .sad times for AMD...and it's tough for them, poor chaps. Nvidia's twice as big in terms of capital and Intel's 30 times bigger.I think the only thing stopping Intel/Nvidia from buying AMD/ATI is an anti-trust lawsuit. and nintendo uses ati for the wii and used to for the gamecube and uses amd for the ds lite uses nvidia for dsi dsixl and 3ds but the big nintendo can make gpus but is lazy like apple the g15 a keybord uses ati mircosoft uses there own gpu


    I'm sorry, What?
  • 9 Hide
    CaedenV , November 25, 2011 1:59 PM
    Apple will always choose the perceived winner in the pro markets for their products no matter their performance. AMD had a strong name just a year ago on their GPU and APU lines, and so they were willing to work with them. After the bad press of bulldozer (whether true or not), AMD will now be ejected from apple products because they are afraid that their elitist customers may think twice about buying something with an AMD label on it. OS-X may not even be susceptible to the issues of bulldozer (as Win8 supposedly isn't), but the media says AMD=fail, and that is all that apple customers are going to care about.
  • 13 Hide
    captaincharisma , November 25, 2011 2:17 PM
    CaedenVApple will always choose the perceived winner in the pro markets for their products no matter their performance. AMD had a strong name just a year ago on their GPU and APU lines, and so they were willing to work with them. After the bad press of bulldozer (whether true or not), AMD will now be ejected from apple products because they are afraid that their elitist customers may think twice about buying something with an AMD label on it. OS-X may not even be susceptible to the issues of bulldozer (as Win8 supposedly isn't), but the media says AMD=fail, and that is all that apple customers are going to care about.


    you could throw an old matrox or S3 video card in the apple macbooks and the apple sheep will still pay thousands of bucks for it
  • 7 Hide
    sonofliberty08 , November 25, 2011 2:17 PM
    CaedenVApple will always choose the perceived winner in the pro markets for their products no matter their performance. AMD had a strong name just a year ago on their GPU and APU lines, and so they were willing to work with them. After the bad press of bulldozer (whether true or not), AMD will now be ejected from apple products because they are afraid that their elitist customers may think twice about buying something with an AMD label on it. OS-X may not even be susceptible to the issues of bulldozer (as Win8 supposedly isn't), but the media says AMD=fail, and that is all that apple customers are going to care about.

    because the apple zombies got rotten brain......
Display more comments