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IBM and the Philipines Battle in Court

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2:11 PM - June 10, 2009 by Jane McEntegart

IBM has filed suit against a Philippine government agency, accusing it of making libelous comments about the company.

According to the Associated Press, the whole thing was kicked off when the Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) filed a civil suit against IBM last week. GSIS was demanding over 100 million pesos in damages and legal fees in relation to alleged faulty software.

IBM says it had nothing to do with the dodgy software at all, and claims GSIS acquired it from a local company. Big Blue went on to release a statement clarifying that it was not involved in the design, supply, installation or maintenance of the GSIS systems.

The AP this week reports that IBM Philippines has filed suit against GSIS following an advertising campaign in which the agency claimed IBM  had sold it faulty software. IBM Philippines says the GSIS ads in local newspapers "were not only false and misleading, but were motivated by ill will and malice," and is demanding a little over $4.3 million in damages.

Check out the full story here.

Source : Tom's Hardware US

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IronRyan21 06/10/2009 10:01 PM
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Kary 06/10/2009 10:28 PM
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IBM sued for 100 million Pesos
Philippines counter sued for $4.3 million (US?)


I wonder what the exchange rate is (Peso vs. US$)...or I would if I hadn't seen it in the other article: "The computer firm is demanding 205 million pesos (4.33 million US dollars) in damages and legal expenses."

You sue us we double dog sue you in return...Muhahhahahahah

zerapio 06/11/2009 12:41 PM
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Kary :
I wonder what the exchange rate is


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en [...] f&oq=&aqi=

Was it that hard?

shock_at 06/11/2009 1:37 AM
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From what i read from the local news sites, it seems that the IBM's software had problems with large amounts of data. The local company that was mentioned in the article was affiliated with IBM, so its the contractor (Questonix) and the software company (IBM), and questonix said before that the IBM software was buggy and that IBM wasnt doing anything to fix it

now questonix is saying that the cause of the crashes was due to not using the best database practices

Shouldnt the software manufacturer be liable if it's software was not working as intended?

dxiii 06/11/2009 2:22 AM
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IronRyan21 :
Um the Philippines? This seems kind of funny considering I didn't know there was PCs in Manila. j/k.



Hey IronRyan, up yours buddy. They have more computer parts readily available in the Philippines than you can find any crappy computer store here in the States. I built 4 computers while I was there, without the hassle of ordering from some damn website and waiting for my parts to arrive. So don't be a smart ass when you obviously don't now anything about another country.

chyll2 06/11/2009 3:11 AM
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Haha, this happens around early April when GSIS system failed, and since they cant blame themselves, they pointed fingers to Questronix and IBM.

Apparently, the Philippines would lose this one.



@IronRyan21
Yes we do have PCs here in Manila, and most of them can be better than yours.

dougwhateva 06/11/2009 4:25 AM
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Anonymous 06/11/2009 5:25 AM
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@dougwhateva: obviously you don't know much about Asia. There are other countries worst off than the Philippines. At least get some info before you start talking out of your behind.

@IronRyan21: If there weren't computers in the Philippines, how'd all the 3gp scandals get uploaded?

ProDigit80 06/11/2009 6:34 AM
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100.000.000 pesos is $210.530US.
Now gets countersued by almost 20 fold!

anamaniac 06/11/2009 7:23 AM
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Ha.

IBM is taking it way out of proportion.
Your software seems defunct... so just take care of the issue.

I think I want to take a acationin the Philippines now.

Anonymous 06/11/2009 8:58 AM
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The problem is simple and 100% the fault of GSIS (Philippines).

Rather than divide their database into smaller tablespaces they got lazy and put everything into one tablespace. So now they have a 2TB tablespace full of tables with 16K page size.

Nobody in their right minds would do this and it's 16 times bigger than the maximum allowed for DB2. Now the junior DBA that set this up can't admit he screwed up and so he's trying to blame IBM. Suggest the idiot DBa reads the spec of the database before blaming others.

3rd world country, 3rd world training and 3rd world Database Administration.

zodiacfml 06/11/2009 9:46 AM
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where you get that and it seems plausible.
i think it is corruption in their government that allowed such low quality administrators.

Anonymous 06/11/2009 11:49 AM
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"Um the Philippines? This seems kind of funny considering I didn't know there was PCs in Manila. j/k."

Ignorance is a bliss.

amnotanoobie 06/11/2009 11:49 AM
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IronRyan21 :
Um the Philippines? This seems kind of funny considering I didn't know there was PCs in Manila. j/k.



We usually get our hardware on the same date as you guys on US soil, and in some cases we get ours earlier than you do. i7, Phenom 2, DDR3, all were available roughly 1 to 2 weeks after launch. We could usually get things here cheaper, sometimes even cheaper than newegg, amazon, etc.

@dougwhateva = troll

GSIS would surely lose this one, their top brass should have just kept their mouth shut. I've seen these government projects wherein usually they play the blame game, but few have ever gone public and usually they resolve the situation. Questronix should be the one blamed in this scenario (unless of course if the GSIS and Questronix's management are very good buddies or even relatives, which is usually the case).


stridervm 06/11/2009 12:47 PM
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Sadly, TonyGordon is right.

It's just a simple case of pointing fingers at each other. Nothing will get solved......

Although I'd disagree on the last sentence. I'd revise it as such :

3rd World Country, First class training, first class laziness.... -_-

futs22 06/11/2009 12:57 PM
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@TonyGordon - If your sources are reliable then that's probably the cause for all this hoopla. Furthermore, what can anyone expect from a government office in the Philippines? These offices tend to be somewhat technologically backwards in most cases.And the people working in them are probably jaded from the monotony of their routine jobs and low-paying salary.

You might want to rethink your last statement. Besides, who made up this whole 1st first world, 2nd world, 3rd world country business anyway? Probably the ones who live in the first world. No need to be condescending.

@IronRyan & dougwhateva: [sarcasm]I'm sure your ignorance speaks well of the countries you are from. [/sarcasm]

Anonymous 06/11/2009 1:14 PM
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lolz

Anonymous 06/11/2009 1:18 PM
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@IronRyan21
lol your so funny, it's really easy here buying PC parts and assembling it.. it's only like buying in candy store wahehe... also we got a place called gilmore where bunch of stores selling computer products and it's within metro manila...

anyway about the topic.. fcking GSIS, we know everytime something comes up it's our fault... damn my country.. oh my bad it's not my country it's our goverment T_T

Anonymous 06/11/2009 1:21 PM
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i hope ibm wins this one... and i hope those politicians go to jail... but unfortunately, it's the people that will always carry the burden these political fools do in office...

goonting 06/11/2009 2:32 PM
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Perhaps GSIS is in need of funding...hehehe

Anonymous 06/11/2009 2:42 PM
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I'm an american living in the Philippines. This country is in last place for a reason. The people are the biggest bunch of idiots in the world. When you do run into a smart person here it's like finding a stream in West Texas. You wonder how the hell it got here.

ceteras 06/11/2009 2:58 PM
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James T Kirk :
I'm an american living in the Philippines. This country is in last place for a reason. The people are the biggest bunch of idiots in the world. When you do run into a smart person here it's like finding a stream in West Texas. You wonder how the hell it got here.


Sounds awful... so, how in the world did you get there?

wayneepalmer 06/11/2009 3:24 PM
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ceteras is in the Philippines because that "that biggest bunch of idiots" describes his attitude towards his ease with finding some desperate and poor lady who is a whole bunch cuter than any woman who'd tolerate his attention in the US and younger than is moral (or maybe even legal!) over here.

Obviously he's never been to Washington D.C. either.

Anyone who looks a the Intel cpu in their PC over the last 10 - 12 years was likely to see the sticker "Made in the Philippines" on it.

Anonymous 06/11/2009 3:43 PM
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@james

don't you know that you could be a laughing stock here in the philippines? many would think that we filipinos are idiots because of being hospitable but in fact, your the one who's being fooled by other filipinos. why don't you look at your countrymen first and look how noob they are in many things before you look down on us...

james t kirk 06/11/2009 4:06 PM
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There is nothing quite so likely to enrage people as an unflattering truth. I came to the P.I. almost 20 years ago. Alcoholism, cockfighting and karaoke vie for the national pastime. Most people are poor, uneducated and uneducatable. A small percentage are smart. Those are the ones that manage to come up in the world. The government is corrupt beyond belief. In that respect I believe it resembles the U.S. Our government is shit too. But honestly this country is a basket case.
Oh, and wayneepalmer you can take your pedo insinuation and stick it up your ass where it belongs. My gf is 19 and gorgeous. I'd take a bet she is better than any thing you have ever had. That's assuming you're not a pissed off man hating bull dyke as your post might suggest.

Anonymous 06/11/2009 5:18 PM
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I find it rather funny that them's supposedly smarter first-world folks have to phone halfway across these here old world jus' to get some of them thar tackneekuhl s'port from these ignoran, brown thard worlders yah know??? :P

wayneepalmer 06/11/2009 7:22 PM
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Hey Kirk the Jerk

My wife is an ADULT Filipina who is my age and a lovely 47 years old, you child-molester.

You marry into a culture to get something you'd never get here for the exact reason most decent folks think so badly of Filipina's.

It is douche bag old perverted farts that go over there to molest girls like you that make things so much herder for the rest of us with Filipina wives over here.

wayneepalmer 06/11/2009 7:23 PM
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harder - God how I hate child-molesters.

They make me so angry I can't even write straight.

wayneepalmer 06/11/2009 7:40 PM
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I'm so darn sick of having to deal with hurt abused young girls in the Fil-Am community here who are married to some 50-year old who basically bought them as 18 or 19 year-old as sex-slaves / servants, who treat them and their families like garbage.

Your marriage is about your ego and your self-centeredness and not about her or any respect for who she is.

There are a lot of decent things about these people and their culture and personal virtues which you havent' even bothered to explore and they aren't your toys or your property. If you hate them so much, get out and leave them alone.

Anonymous 06/11/2009 9:57 PM
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i wonder where's the exact location of james t kirk ...

james t kirk 06/12/2009 4:07 AM
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If I may paraphrase Saturday night live. "Wayneepalmer you ignorant slut." Last time I checked 19 is legal. I'm sure if you had your way it would be against the law to have sex with any woman that was under 40 and not fat. And by the way I never said I hated the people. I'm just frequently frustrated by the number of people here that don't know a damn thing. And so many of them have a hard luck story and an out stretched hand. That gets old quick. Please don't pretend you live here or know anything about the culture. And don't pretend you're a man with a middle age wife. My guess is you are some fat old cow that no one wants so you are pissed to high heaven that a man can come here and have something young and beautiful. I first came here about 20 years ago as a young man in the military. I decided to come back in my 40's. And my gf and I are quite happy together. Thank you very much. I hope that makes you sleep well tonight you sexually frustrated old cow.


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