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IBM and the Philipines Battle in Court

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IBM has filed suit against a Philippine government agency, accusing it of making libelous comments about the company.

According to the Associated Press, the whole thing was kicked off when the Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) filed a civil suit against IBM last week. GSIS was demanding over 100 million pesos in damages and legal fees in relation to alleged faulty software.

IBM says it had nothing to do with the dodgy software at all, and claims GSIS acquired it from a local company. Big Blue went on to release a statement clarifying that it was not involved in the design, supply, installation or maintenance of the GSIS systems.

The AP this week reports that IBM Philippines has filed suit against GSIS following an advertising campaign in which the agency claimed IBM  had sold it faulty software. IBM Philippines says the GSIS ads in local newspapers "were not only false and misleading, but were motivated by ill will and malice," and is demanding a little over $4.3 million in damages.

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    IronRyan21 , June 10, 2009 8:01 PM
    Um the Philippines? This seems kind of funny considering I didn't know there was PCs in Manila. j/k.
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    Kary , June 10, 2009 8:28 PM
    IBM sued for 100 million Pesos
    Philippines counter sued for $4.3 million (US?)


    I wonder what the exchange rate is (Peso vs. US$)...or I would if I hadn't seen it in the other article: "The computer firm is demanding 205 million pesos (4.33 million US dollars) in damages and legal expenses."

    You sue us we double dog sue you in return...Muhahhahahahah
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    zerapio , June 10, 2009 10:41 PM
    KaryI wonder what the exchange rate is

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=rAC&q=exchange+rate+philippine+peso&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

    Was it that hard?
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    shock_at , June 10, 2009 11:37 PM
    From what i read from the local news sites, it seems that the IBM's software had problems with large amounts of data. The local company that was mentioned in the article was affiliated with IBM, so its the contractor (Questonix) and the software company (IBM), and questonix said before that the IBM software was buggy and that IBM wasnt doing anything to fix it

    now questonix is saying that the cause of the crashes was due to not using the best database practices

    Shouldnt the software manufacturer be liable if it's software was not working as intended?
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    dxiii , June 11, 2009 12:22 AM
    IronRyan21Um the Philippines? This seems kind of funny considering I didn't know there was PCs in Manila. j/k.


    Hey IronRyan, up yours buddy. They have more computer parts readily available in the Philippines than you can find any crappy computer store here in the States. I built 4 computers while I was there, without the hassle of ordering from some damn website and waiting for my parts to arrive. So don't be a smart ass when you obviously don't now anything about another country.
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    chyll2 , June 11, 2009 1:11 AM
    Haha, this happens around early April when GSIS system failed, and since they cant blame themselves, they pointed fingers to Questronix and IBM.

    Apparently, the Philippines would lose this one.



    @IronRyan21
    Yes we do have PCs here in Manila, and most of them can be better than yours.
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    dougwhateva , June 11, 2009 2:25 AM
    LOL Just be thankful that your country is still getting in the news haha. No one cares about the poorest country in Asia anymore hahahaha.
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    Anonymous , June 11, 2009 3:25 AM
    @dougwhateva: obviously you don't know much about Asia. There are other countries worst off than the Philippines. At least get some info before you start talking out of your behind.

    @IronRyan21: If there weren't computers in the Philippines, how'd all the 3gp scandals get uploaded?

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    Anonymous , June 11, 2009 4:34 AM
    100.000.000 pesos is $210.530US.
    Now gets countersued by almost 20 fold!
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    anamaniac , June 11, 2009 5:23 AM
    Ha.

    IBM is taking it way out of proportion.
    Your software seems defunct... so just take care of the issue.

    I think I want to take a acationin the Philippines now.
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    Anonymous , June 11, 2009 6:58 AM
    The problem is simple and 100% the fault of GSIS (Philippines).

    Rather than divide their database into smaller tablespaces they got lazy and put everything into one tablespace. So now they have a 2TB tablespace full of tables with 16K page size.

    Nobody in their right minds would do this and it's 16 times bigger than the maximum allowed for DB2. Now the junior DBA that set this up can't admit he screwed up and so he's trying to blame IBM. Suggest the idiot DBa reads the spec of the database before blaming others.

    3rd world country, 3rd world training and 3rd world Database Administration.
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    zodiacfml , June 11, 2009 7:46 AM
    where you get that and it seems plausible.
    i think it is corruption in their government that allowed such low quality administrators.
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    Anonymous , June 11, 2009 9:49 AM
    "Um the Philippines? This seems kind of funny considering I didn't know there was PCs in Manila. j/k."

    Ignorance is a bliss.
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    amnotanoobie , June 11, 2009 9:49 AM
    IronRyan21Um the Philippines? This seems kind of funny considering I didn't know there was PCs in Manila. j/k.


    We usually get our hardware on the same date as you guys on US soil, and in some cases we get ours earlier than you do. i7, Phenom 2, DDR3, all were available roughly 1 to 2 weeks after launch. We could usually get things here cheaper, sometimes even cheaper than newegg, amazon, etc.

    @dougwhateva = troll

    GSIS would surely lose this one, their top brass should have just kept their mouth shut. I've seen these government projects wherein usually they play the blame game, but few have ever gone public and usually they resolve the situation. Questronix should be the one blamed in this scenario (unless of course if the GSIS and Questronix's management are very good buddies or even relatives, which is usually the case).


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    stridervm , June 11, 2009 10:47 AM
    Sadly, TonyGordon is right.

    It's just a simple case of pointing fingers at each other. Nothing will get solved......

    Although I'd disagree on the last sentence. I'd revise it as such :

    3rd World Country, First class training, first class laziness.... -_-
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    futs22 , June 11, 2009 10:57 AM
    @TonyGordon - If your sources are reliable then that's probably the cause for all this hoopla. Furthermore, what can anyone expect from a government office in the Philippines? These offices tend to be somewhat technologically backwards in most cases.And the people working in them are probably jaded from the monotony of their routine jobs and low-paying salary.

    You might want to rethink your last statement. Besides, who made up this whole 1st first world, 2nd world, 3rd world country business anyway? Probably the ones who live in the first world. No need to be condescending.

    @IronRyan & dougwhateva: [sarcasm]I'm sure your ignorance speaks well of the countries you are from. [/sarcasm]
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    Anonymous , June 11, 2009 11:14 AM
    lolz
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    Anonymous , June 11, 2009 11:18 AM
    @IronRyan21
    lol your so funny, it's really easy here buying PC parts and assembling it.. it's only like buying in candy store wahehe... also we got a place called gilmore where bunch of stores selling computer products and it's within metro manila...

    anyway about the topic.. fcking GSIS, we know everytime something comes up it's our fault... damn my country.. oh my bad it's not my country it's our goverment T_T
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    Anonymous , June 11, 2009 11:21 AM
    i hope ibm wins this one... and i hope those politicians go to jail... but unfortunately, it's the people that will always carry the burden these political fools do in office...
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    goonting , June 11, 2009 12:32 PM
    Perhaps GSIS is in need of funding...hehehe
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