Rumor: Intel Launching Core i5, i7 September 8
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Rumor has it that Lynnfield will be here next week.
According to Digitimes' sources at motherboard makers, Intel's upcoming Core i5-750, Core i7-860 and Core i7-870 CPUs as well as P55 chipsets will be announced on September 8.
While the upcoming Lynnfield platform parts haven't officially been launched yet, some retailers have already received new Core i5 and Core i7 CPUs and are already selling them, much to Intel's chagrin.
Either way, motherboard makers are excited for the new Intel P55 chipset as it is expected to boost sales by 15 to 20 percent in the fourth quarter. P55 boards are expected to make up one fifth of total shipments by the end of the year.
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They could help their cause a bit by lifting the NDA. I want to see some benchmarks. Geez...it's only a week from now!
I love me some P45, bring on the P55.
Gigabyte all the way.
The i5 750 and the i7 860 has been out for retail sale in Taiwan for about 3 weeks now, been for retail sale in Australia, Europe for a couple of weeks. The P55 is out for retail sale in the USA right now.
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Just because Intel hosed Toms and every other major site that reviews hardware by keeping an NDA long after their CPUs were out for retail sale doesn't make this a "rumor"
Thats what I said about a month ago, sounds about right to me heheh
Thats what Id heard amonth ago as the release date, now yes, some retailers jumped the gun, oh well, we saw it with the 4850 too
I just hope they don't ditch the 1366 platform...
Considering you can already buy them...........
1366 is the triple channel high performance platform. why would they ditch it!!!! Two, why are i5's being sold on super high price mobo's when the i5 was supposed to be the budget savior to the i7 platform????
I'm just looking forward to all the P55 hype coming to an end.
Where i live (Portugal) there is already a store selling P55 MB, Asus in this case, starting from 165€ for the P55 PRO, 185€ for the EVO and 200€ for the Deluxe version and there is also a store selling a Core I5 750 for 205€. The prices seem, at least for me, a little high for something that is supposed to be mainstream and too close to the X58 entry MBs, but since they don´t have any real competition...
If the benchies are good enough, maybe i´ll finally update my Core2Duo E6400...
well here in quebec,canada , you can get the CORE I5-750 for 238.99$can
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Regarding that NDA, I heard rumors that there are problems regarding bandwidth contention with high-end video cards due to the lack of an external northbridge and some generally poor design of the pin configuration(as to say, it may not do very well as a gaming platform).
The media hype for this mid-range product that's coming out a year after the high-end platform it's based on is unprecedented, especially since nobody will post benchmarks. Perhaps they want to hype it up and get their pre-order sales up before the tech sites spill the beans and tell you it sucks for gaming... Non-gamers can still do just fine with a Q6600 or a 940BE, so Core i5 would still be pointless.
Could someone please name the differences between i7 940 and 870? I'd appreciate it, thanks.
Besides the sockets ofcourse
... waste of money... there is a time to reconsider... if you use the technology right... and even... when i see benchmarks about video; audio compressing and memory throughput and many synthetics.. BUT... there is a new ways to do stuff... so the CPU is long not the main part... i thing the videocards are starting to overtake... sins catalyst 8.12 and Cyberlink Power director 7 is out... i do video with my HD4870... and that is much faster, then with a CPU... and with the OpenCL...
They could help their cause a bit by lifting the NDA. I want to see some benchmarks. Geez...it's only a week from now!
i know!! just dying for a review about them i5's...
Thats because everyone who buys into this chip will REQUIRE a new MB that will be limited in what you can do with it in the future when 2 X8 PCI-E lanes are too slow for future video cards.
This would not surprise me one bit, seeing as how thye are in the new Tigerdirect magazine.

Here are the prices and speeds:
i7-870 2.93ghz LGA1156 = $649.399
i7-860 2.8ghz LGA1156 = $349.99
i5-750 2.66ghz LGA1156 = $229.399
Hopefully the i7 920 will come down in price because of these
Btw, is the LGA1156 faster or slower than the LGA1366? I assume slower...?
p.s. hope they test some with the X2 or nvidia's verson so they can try to crunch the bandwith on the express lanes.
I have a Core i5 750.
It overclocks well. I overclocked mine to 4.2ghz and broke the 10 second mark in super pi mod 1M.
I'm more interested in the new socket's efficiency along with the new chipset.
Be nice to see these cores efficient enough to replace the core 2 duos on laptops easily.
I also can imagine having about 200 extra sockets in the old i7's and triple channel decrease power savings for a very small performance per clock boost...
Im an expat living in Malaysia and the SE-Asia market is full with i5s since quite a while
Ok, I'm confused as hell. I thought all i7 chips will use the 1366 - triple channel socket DDR3 socket and i5 will use DDR2. So will i7 now come in two different pin configurations? If so, then how is i5 any different from i7-1156 if they are both using DDR2?
Blackbeastofaaaaaagh....you're close.
The i7 will use the 1366 socket, tri-channel DDR3
The i5 will uwe the 1156 socket, dual-channel DDR3
Both use DDR3...one with tri-channel (i7) and the other with dual channel (i5).
Hope that clears it up.
Blackbeastofaaaaaagh....you're close.The i7 will use the 1366 socket, tri-channel DDR3The i5 will uwe the 1156 socket, dual-channel DDR3Both use DDR3...one with tri-channel (i7) and the other with dual channel (i5).Hope that clears it up.
actually the i7 8xx series is the 1156 socket version of the i7 9xx series with the exception of dual channel memory. the I5 is a 1156 I7 with NO Hyper Threading. the I5 is 4 cpus no virtual cpus.
ejohanss69... well, I'm still confused on several points.
It was my understanding that the P58 chipset (uses QPI and triple channel) would use socket 1366 and that the cheaper P55 chipset (retains a southbridge and dual channel) would use socket 1156. The article implies that the new i7-860 is for the P55 motherboard, hence will be using a two channel memory controller. Also I believe there are two types of i7 chips; Bloomfield (uses QPI) and Lynnfield (does not use QPI). So if you have a P58 motherboard I assume the entry level CPU to get is still the i7-920 (D0 stepping) not the new i7-860.
noob2222... Ok, that makes things clear. Seriously though, what the hell was Intel thinking coming up with this nomenclature. It is going to create needless confusion in the marketplace.
Umart online (www.umart.com.au) in Queensland, Australia is saying they will be coming into stock within "the next couple of days"