Leaked Slide Shows Intel Haswell Set for March-June 2013

Seeing a slide like that make me think that hitting a dead body is kind of useless..

Today AMD have troubles to keep general performace with the current Sandy-Bridge. Ivy-Bridge will be better and it's coming.. in less than a year and half will be an Ivy-Bridge upgrade?

AMD really need to run at fast pace. really fast..

Competing with intel on the highend space isn't on amd's shortlist.

Isn't Ivy Bridge a "Tock" and Haswell a new" Tick"?

I'm guessing it'll most likely be july, actually, going by the 1 year and three month diff b/w SB and IB.

I wonder what Haswell brings to the market though. 14nm sounds cool enough for now

should i get the Intel Core-i7 3930K now or wait for Ivy bridge?

AMD is dying in the desktop world, and it will continue, unless it can bring something that works as good as what the specs said originaly.

when sandybridge came out so cheap it realy affected AMD. the performance you get from a sandy is way more. did gaming fps with 2600k and FX-8150. the amd had 3-8 fps drop compared to the sandy.(tested with gtx 260 and 8800GT(lower cards make the difference clearer).

when it came down to Rendering the sandy beat the Bull with 2-6 minutes to spare for the same job. which is a big difference for me.

so yea, amd realy has to pull the thumb out their ass and fix their shit.

i wait for haswell...ivy bridge seemed so obsolete compared to haswell's 'features' like dx11.1 and win8....

Yet another socket? I remember why I hated Intel :-P
Sucks that I really need to upgrade my old AM2 system, so it'll probably be Ivy Bridge for me and then I'll have to throw it all out and start over in a year or two...

Tick is the Die Shrink = Ivy Bridge
Tock is the new architecture = Haswell

Haswell is not 14nm. Its a new architecture on the same process node of ivybridge (22nm).

Really doesen't matter how you slice it. I have many system. I just got a amd F1 system to run a server, Its slow and pathetic, while I still have a 775 system with the extrime cpu that is still comparable to the first gen I5 and I7 not Sandy Bridge, I have that too. its awesome.
Either way AMD is no longer a factor.
SAD, I like them both. I never obsessed on one or the other. I worked with both on many levels.

The only reason intel is still keeping with the road map is to prove Moores Law which also is no longer a factor.
So you guys who say ARM will destroy intel. Your dead wrong there too. Haswells version of the atom will run all known architecture and be just as efficient.

I have said this before and some of your bashed it good. But Qualcomm will end up buying AMD>
Look for soon as they now have some cash instead of dept.

What will Qualcomm do by buying AMD, it is not for the x86 license,is it?

Competing is not on AMD's short list

Tick: Westmere
Tock: Sandy Bridge
Tick: Ivy Bridge
Tock: Haswell

Haswell will be 22nm, Broadwell (the haswell refresh) will be a die shrink, suspected to be 14-18nm.

This is what I love about Intel; you know what is coming and can plan ahead for your upgrades! With AMD you never know when something is going to be released until it is 1-2 months away, and you never know what type of performance you will be getting. I don't mean to knock AMD that hard, they have a few good products left, and have been a great innovator in the past; but until they get their act together they are going to have some heavy competition on the low end with ARM and Atom chips, and they have allready lost the battle on the high end to Intel. Heck, they have already lost most of the budget race to used Intel equipment that is a few years old and is still faster than budget Phenoms... It's a truly dark day for an otherwise great company

IIRC there was some part of the deal between AMD and Intel that said the x86 license wasn't transferable in the event of a sale or something along those lines. Although it is possible a court could force a transfer as part of an anti-trust ruling after the fact.

well another mobo to buy =) why.................. whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

If i survive the end of the world on 21.12.12 then i will buy this on 2013 june

For people who QQ over getting new MB, its very simple you want the latest options you can't get on your current one without installing PCI card, otherwise you can keep your SATA II and USB 2.0 .

If you only game, Ivy Bridge unlocked i5 is all you need. If you do image manipulation, encoding, compiling, or service hosting, I'd still probably say get a Ivy Bridge i7. The price markup on SB-E puts it price / performance way off of the main line chips.

To everyone saying AMD is falling behind...read this:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquire [...] -feed-gpus

AMD is ahead of the curve in one aspect.

Ticks are new architectures, tocks are die shrinks, Westmere was the Nehalem die shrink, so Ivy Bridge is a tock and Haswell is a tick.

As a general note, Haswell is not meant to boost per thread performance much, and it won't be a 6 core processor either from earlier press releases. It is meant to be more power efficient than the SB chips so they can make a strong ultrabook push.

Is anyone else tired of the socket changing every time they release a new cpu?

@Zanny Tock's are new architectures actually. Its reversed for some reason. Strange I know.

I thought the same thing.

The phrase is "Tick Tock"
So "Ticks" would the new architectures while "Tocks' would be die shrinks of that architecture.

But apparently Intel is notating it based on the manufacturing process, not the microarchitecture.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/u [...] neral.html

That sounds backwards to me but whatever works for Intel.

Actually, it's the opposite. I have no idea why Intel says Tick is when they die shrink, but that's the way it is.

Where is Ivy Bridge-E?

To me it makes sense that Ticks are die shrinks and Tocks are new architectures. New architectures bring significant new features that are very visible to the end user, while process shinks aren't quite as dramatic for the most part. Just look at the Core 2 -> Nahelem tock and compare that to the Nahelem -> Westmere tick.

I don't see what this slide proves other than "new CPUs will be coming out". I think AMD already knew that Intel would continue to release new CPUs in 2013.




What are you talking about? Are you aware AMD also has slides showing it's future products? And since when has Atom been competition so far?

A lot of people seem to be making a blind assumption that Haswell will be awesome just because it's new. New architectures aren't always an improvement. If you have any doubts, take a look at Bulldozer. By 2013 AMD's architecture will have a couple years to improve and Intel's will be brand new. I can't predict how either of those will perform, but 2013 leaves the opportunity for AMD to gain some ground if they can fix their architecture soon.

AMD has never been "winning the race". The only time they even gained any ground at all was when Intel stopped racing and had a couple of beers. Intel is much larger, has more money, bigger factories, more R&D, better patents, and stronger business contracts. The only way they can compete has been in markets Intel didn't want. Intel ignored budget CPUs, AMD was there. Intel didn't like overclocking, AMD did it. Intel had expensive chipsets, AMD offered cheaper. Intel changed their sockets, AMD made theirs backwards compatible. By this point, their best bet is the field Intel can't compete in, discrete GPU integration. APUs are the only thing that Intel can't easily copy, so it makes sense AMD wants to focus mainly on those.

God dammit Intel, can you ever settle on a socket design that can last you at least four years?!

No, die shrinks are ticks. New architectures are tocks.

A tock is louder than a tick ... tick TOCK