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Which AMD CPUs Support XP Mode Virtualization?

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AMD makes things a little easier to identify virtualization hardware CPUs.

Now that we have both Windows 7 RC and the XP Mode beta, we’re all ready to rock out to Windows XP all over again, right? Well, only if you have the requisite hardware.

If you have an AMD processor, you’ll need something called AMD-V for the hardware virtualization that XP Mode calls for. If you have a fairly recent AMD CPU, you should be ok.

"All CPUs AMD is currently shipping, except Sempron, include AMD-V and therefore support XP mode," an AMD spokeswoman said to CNet.

AMD then laid out which of its CPUs support AMD-V:

“With the exceptions of Sempron-branded processors and Turion K8 Rev E processors, all notebook processors shipped by AMD include AMD-V and therefore support Windows 7 XP mode."

"With the exceptions of Sempron-branded processors and pre-Rev F Athlon branded processors, all of the desktop processors shipped by AMD include AMD-V and therefore support Windows 7 in XP mode."

"Also, all AMD Opteron processors shipped by AMD from Rev F forward include AMD-V."

In a previous article, we looked at all the Intel processors that supported virtualization. The picture wasn’t as clear as AMD’s, however, with some Core 2 Duo and Quad chips with and without Intel-VT. See the Intel CPU list here.

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    hellwig , May 7, 2009 7:20 PM
    So basically any Athlon, Phenom, or Opteron made since 2006. Good to know.
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    hellwig , May 7, 2009 7:20 PM
    So basically any Athlon, Phenom, or Opteron made since 2006. Good to know.
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    deltatux , May 7, 2009 7:28 PM
    lol, I thought this was a lil' obvious. It seems that AMD believes that it's beneficial that everyone gets virtualization technology. Seems like AMD is more aggressive in virtualization technology than Intel is.
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    kschoche , May 7, 2009 7:33 PM
    @ deltatux
    Yes and no, or maybe AMD is just trying to capitalize less on the 'VT' flag like Intel does, you have to pay for an extreme edition cpu to get that VT flag turned on.
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    megamanx00 , May 7, 2009 7:36 PM
    If you've got an AM2 CPU, other than a Sempron, you're good. Guess only pretty early AMDs get left out. Don't know why Intel made theirs so confusing.
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    mrubermonkey , May 7, 2009 7:36 PM
    I am kind of new to this virtualization business proposed by Windows 7, but can you not do the virtualization in software on cpus that do not support hardware vitualization? Granted, it will not be as efficient as hardware virtualization, but for the sake of having it just work can it not be done within Windows 7?
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    mrubermonkey , May 7, 2009 7:39 PM
    megamanx00If you've got an AM2 CPU, other than a Sempron, you're good. Guess only pretty early AMDs get left out. Don't know why Intel made theirs so confusing.

    I think Intel wanted hardware virtualization to be a value added feature whereas AMD realized that it was a possibly necessary feature that should not be denied to those with lesser budgets for cpus. Just a guess.
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    astrotrain1000 , May 7, 2009 7:55 PM
    I agree
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    zaratustra06 , May 7, 2009 8:00 PM
    This seems to me like a clean win for AMD. Too many Intel processors lack virtualization. I think that E7200 and E7300 are definitly among those that lack this feature for no reason.
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    astrotrain1000 , May 7, 2009 8:00 PM
    Weird, i started typing then realized i needed to log in. When I did it submitted my comment(which wasn't finished.) Anyways, I agree with megamanx. I remember seeing feature lists for some Intel CPU's and thought hmmm no virtuallization, oh well I'll never need that feature. Problem is now I can see myself using it, as it integrates XP applications and you run them just like you would any windows 7 app.
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    hellwig , May 7, 2009 8:10 PM
    mrubermonkeyI am kind of new to this virtualization business proposed by Windows 7, but can you not do the virtualization in software on cpus that do not support hardware vitualization? Granted, it will not be as efficient as hardware virtualization, but for the sake of having it just work can it not be done within Windows 7?

    You can use software virtualization, but you would have to manually install a host (like VMWare or VirtualPC), and then obtain a legal copy of Windows XP. You would also then be limited by the virtualization software you were using. Why Windows7 doesn't do software-only is a question for Microsoft.
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    falchard , May 7, 2009 8:24 PM
    Doesn't AMD also offer the better virtualization between Intel and AMD?
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    mforce2 , May 7, 2009 8:54 PM
    Intel likes to cripple their CPUs , they were always good at it and now that they have the technological superiority again they seem to be at it again.
    Of course there's no real reason to not have virtualization in lower end CPUs but why not try get more money from people and sell you expensive models they wouldn't otherwise buy.
    It's a shame though , a friend has some real problems at work because he had a PC with a lower end Intel CPU and he could really use the hardware virtualization support. Tough luck.
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    kamkal , May 7, 2009 9:06 PM

    Athlon 64 X2 5000+ BE FTW!
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    apache_lives , May 7, 2009 9:20 PM
    zaratustra06This seems to me like a clean win for AMD. Too many Intel processors lack virtualization. I think that E7200 and E7300 are definitly among those that lack this feature for no reason.


    It forces people to upgrade/purchace higher end cpus - normal marketing

    Why would a $8k car have all of the flash mercedes features?
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    socrates047 , May 7, 2009 9:43 PM
    History repeats itself (sorta) ... I think AMD is like the Robin Hood character, looking out for the little people :) 
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    curnel_D , May 8, 2009 12:34 AM
    apache_livesIt forces people to upgrade/purchace higher end cpus - normal marketingWhy would a $8k car have all of the flash mercedes features?

    Hardly a comparison. More like BMW has all the flash mercedes-like features for much less.
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    eddieroolz , May 8, 2009 1:14 AM
    So much more simpler for the AMD users. I wish I had a AMD chip now.
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    ravewulf , May 8, 2009 3:22 AM
    I have it on both my laptop and desktop. But I already know that from playing with Virtual PC for years and looking around in the BIOS
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    randomizer , May 8, 2009 3:29 AM
    socrates047History repeats itself (sorta) ... I think AMD is like the Robin Hood character, looking out for the little people

    Don't be silly, they're only looking out for the little people's wallets. They're a business, just like Intel. They just aren't separating the high end and the low end like Intel is.
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    Anonymous , May 8, 2009 4:55 AM
    Software virtualization sucks, I've tried running VMs on my Pentium M laptop, and also on my Phenom desktop with hardware virtualization enabled, there's no comparison, I can only tell that the Phenom VMs are slower if I'm benchmarking, otherwise they appear to run just as fast as native... Both machines have adequate RAM, so that's not a factor...
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