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Betheda: You'll Get Your Money's Worth in Elder Scrolls Online

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You'll get you money's worth.

Bethesda's Pete Hines defends the Elder Scrolls Online subscription model in a recent interview, indicating that the $14.99 per month fee will be a "value proposition." He said the team feels pretty strongly about the support gamers will receive as well as what they will get with those dollars.

"We're also very confident in our ability to support it with content," he told GameSpot. "And not content of the magnitude of, it's a new month, here's a new sword or here's a funny hat -- but content that is real and significant and it feels like regular and consistent DLC releases."

Hines also noted that Elder Scrolls Online is built in a way that everyone playing needs the same content installed in order for players to interact with each other. There are no zones set aside for free players and no "premium" zones set aside for subscribers. Either gamers are all in, or they are not, he said.

"We're not trying to make a game that everybody who plays games will automatically buy," he said. "It is a certain kind of game. There's no shooter elements. There's no aliens. It is a massive, 'Go where you want, do what you want' game that we think offers the kind of experience that's worthy of a subscription."

"We're not going to make a lesser game that might be more palatable," he added. "We want to do the version that we think is the best game and the coolest experience. And that means putting a lot of people and a lot of content creators towards having stuff that comes out regularly; every four weeks, five weeks, six weeks. Big new stuff that you want to do."

The Elder Scrolls Online is scheduled to launch on PC and Mac in April. The game will also launch on the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 in June.

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    rad666 , March 15, 2014 8:15 AM
    The title should probably say "Bethesda" not "Betheda".
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    thillntn , March 15, 2014 8:17 AM
    Either way, Bethesda or Betheda we would rather have some Fallout 4 news :) .
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    Datcu Alexandru , March 15, 2014 8:22 AM
    Putting aside the fact that i don't like the game, i have to say that even now i still think they have no hope of staying pay to play. i mean they are so confident in the game that they had to segregate an entire playable race to the imperial edition which btw segregates the player base in what they can play as and in what alliance. Kudos to the developers. you just let the marketing department bury your love child AND let them take a piss on the grave.
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    daekar , March 15, 2014 8:34 AM
    I would like to believe that Bethesda can succeed where SWTOR failed, but I'll be shocked if they can - that game was fantastic. I would pay subscription fees without blinking, but apparently a lot of people won't. Don't understand why, but there it is. I hate the F2P model, and wish Bethesda the best of luck. If I weren't knee-deep in Mechwarrior Online, I might subscribe on principle!
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    coolitic , March 15, 2014 9:00 AM
    Aaaanddd this shall fail.
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    jackt , March 15, 2014 9:02 AM
    will fail !
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    jackt , March 15, 2014 9:05 AM
    may works for 5$...
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    Battledad , March 15, 2014 9:15 AM
    Been playing the beta for a while now (including this weekend). hard to put a finger on it but it just doesn't "feel" right. Hit E to enter, R to pickup items, mouse moves the screen; chat is weak (and communication in an MMO is key); lots of bugs and glitches (that don't appear to be fixed thru betas) and it's not ready for prime time. We won't e subscribing.
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    bluestar2k11 , March 15, 2014 9:17 AM
    Not many of you seem to have met FFXI which has been pay 2 play for 11 years and still has a fair player base, and charges 13$/month base, and an extra dollar per additional character after the first.And FFXIV which last I heard is still netting up players clamouring for it as a hit, which charges 15$/month.Both games coming from a company people don't seem to like.So the pay to play will fail argument, kind of fails.
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    bystander , March 15, 2014 9:49 AM
    I personally would like the WoW experience from early vanilla and BC. I'm tired of the Solo play, cross server, automatic grouping experiences that most games have gone to. It seems that MMO's are designed for people to log on and just watch the action around them. The social aspect of the games have died due to many design choices, almost all of which WoW as done first.If they avoid the pitfalls that WoW has introduced into the MMO community, I'll join, pay or free.
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    Menigmand , March 15, 2014 9:59 AM
    Dear Bethesda, I will keep waiting for your next singleplayer game.
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    alchemy69 , March 15, 2014 10:03 AM
    It seems trendy in some "hardcore gamer" cliques to slag off TESO. Mostly I'm sure from kids who have never played it and just want to fit in. Fortunately for me I'm capable of forming my own opinion: I've played the beta for awhile and I love it. How may of those saying the subscription model will fail played WoW for years on their parents dime, I wonder?
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    aule 10 , March 15, 2014 10:06 AM
    Until they have an decent FOV over 65-75 the game is unplayable. so no you will not get your money's worth. But they promised an FOV slider, but they haven't made it into the game yet.
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    Pherule , March 15, 2014 10:07 AM
    I always pronounce it Bethseeda.Anyway, I do like the Elder of Scrolls series, it seems very fun. Too bad I could never get into it, maybe it's just not my type of game. Tried Morrowind for a while, was nice traveling, but the encounters were way too hard, and enemies scaled with you, which is an awful design. Tried Oblivion briefly, but by then I had a job and little time, so dropped quickly. Skyrim I discovered cheats and enjoyed flying around for a while at high speed; also dropped quickly because: It's about 1:30 in the morning, everyone in this village is sleeping. I kill a wolf in the village. Suddenly I have two guys (which are 10x stronger than me) trying to kill them because I killed their pet wolf (apparently a "dog"). So what were they doing awake at 1:30? Would people try to commit murder IRL if someone kills their dog? If that happened, society would break down. Completely unrealistic, hence dropped.
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    verma1891 , March 15, 2014 10:08 AM
    Betheda? Seriously :D 
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    firefoxx04 , March 15, 2014 10:08 AM
    Im all for $15 a month if that means lots of new content all the time with no bugs. That is not reality though. I have Skyrim with all the DLC and newest patches and I still run into bugs. This cannot happen if I buy the game and then pay per month. I dont play enough to warrant a monthly fee anyways but if I did, Im not sure I would play this. They have not proven that they can put out a bug free game 100% of the time. Its hard to do with games this big.
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    bak0n , March 15, 2014 10:10 AM
    I'd need 4 accounts for my family. Add in the cost of purchase price of the game and that's $1k a year. Or 2 round trip tickets to Hawaii in the off season. Think I'd rather go to Hawaii.
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    bystander , March 15, 2014 10:15 AM
    Quote:
    I always pronounce it Bethseeda.Anyway, I do like the Elder of Scrolls series, it seems very fun. Too bad I could never get into it, maybe it's just not my type of game. Tried Morrowind for a while, was nice traveling, but the encounters were way too hard, and enemies scaled with you, which is an awful design. Tried Oblivion briefly, but by then I had a job and little time, so dropped quickly. Skyrim I discovered cheats and enjoyed flying around for a while at high speed; also dropped quickly because: It's about 1:30 in the morning, everyone in this village is sleeping. I kill a wolf in the village. Suddenly I have two guys (which are 10x stronger than me) trying to kill them because I killed their pet wolf (apparently a "dog"). So what were they doing awake at 1:30? Would people try to commit murder IRL if someone kills their dog? If that happened, society would break down. Completely unrealistic, hence dropped.


    If you really are interested in these games, you can fix your issues quite easily. In Morrowind, there was a slider for difficulty. Turn it down and play at the difficulty you want. The game is made much easier or more difficult based on your character choices, so tuning the difficulty is understandable.

    As far as the dog killing thing goes, yes I've known people who would shoot you for killing their dog. Also recognize that this is a fantasy world. There are different cultural differences, and it is a game after all. As a general rule, do not kill in town, and if you do, make sure you are sneaking and not visible.
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    Sakkura , March 15, 2014 10:15 AM
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    It seems trendy in some "hardcore gamer" cliques to slag off TESO. Mostly I'm sure from kids who have never played it and just want to fit in. Fortunately for me I'm capable of forming my own opinion: I've played the beta for awhile and I love it. How may of those saying the subscription model will fail played WoW for years on their parents dime, I wonder?
    To me, the game just doesn't have the quality required for a subscription model to work. The same thing happened with SWTOR, Age of Conan, and quite a few other post-WoW subscription MMOs.I think Wildstar has a much better chance at success with the subscription model. Initial buyers may not be quite as numerous, since the Elder Scrolls has a huge fanbase and awareness that just isn't possible with a new franchise.
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    Cons29 , March 15, 2014 10:31 AM
    give players a few days to play it for free, then let them decide if its worth it. just my 2 cents
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