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Intel, Microsoft Show More Win 7 CPU Efficiency

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4:01 PM - September 2, 2009 by Marcus Yam

Windows 7 to get more out of your laptop battery.

By now, most of you who have been keeping abreast with our Windows 7 coverage knows that sort of improvements to expect when you upgrade or purchase a new PC with the upcoming Microsoft operating system. Windows 7 will fix many of the things wrong with Vista, and it'll also be able to get more computing by using fewer resources.

Intel and Microsoft held a press briefing yesterday highlighting some of the improvements Windows 7 has and its effect on hardware. While everyone enjoys greater power efficiency, the real appreciators of it should be laptop users.

The two companies used two identically configured ThinkPads T400s, one running Windows Vista SP2 and the other Windows 7, and compared the two's power usage. The Windows Vista SP2 machine consumed on average 20.2 watts, while the Windows 7 machine consumed 15.4 watts, according to PC World, which could translate to about 1.4 hours of additional battery life.

Such an improvement, as highlighted by the test using two sets of identical hardware, is all made possible on the software level. Both Microsoft and Intel run tests and monitor the interaction between hardware and software layers in hopes of finding areas in which they may optimize.

PC Magazine also reported that Intel revealed internal comparison tests running on a 2.53 GHz Penryn chip showed that Windows 7 had a 2.8 percent improvement at idle as compared to Windows Vista SP2. The advantage jumps to an 11 percent improvement when playing back a standard-definition DVD (18.35 watts versus 16.53 watts).

Intel credits the boost in battery life to something called Windows 7 timer coalescing, whereby a software control minimizes the period in which the processor is in a high-performance, full-power state. Windows 7 makes improvements by synchronizing when different applications call for the CPU, which translates to greater efficiency. While this obviously benefits laptop users, this type of technology should also lead to reduced power bills and heat generation.

Source : Tom's Hardware US

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grieve 09/02/2009 10:22 PM
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You had me @ "abreast"

icepick314 09/02/2009 10:22 PM
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"The two companies used two identically configured ThinkPads T400s, one running Windows Vista SP2 and the other Windows 7, and compared the two's power usage."

why didn't they test using SAME laptop by installing Windows Vista SP2, test it, then do fresh install using Windows 7?

jhansonxi 09/02/2009 10:23 PM
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I'd like to see how Win7 power management compares to Vista, XP, and Ubuntu or Mandriva Linux with various tasks including word processing, 802.11 and 3G wireless, DVD encoding, and web browsing with Flash. An improvement over Vista isn't saying much.

grieve 09/02/2009 10:25 PM
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jhansonxi :
I'd like to see how Win7 power management compares to Vista, XP, and Ubuntu or Mandriva Linux with various tasks including word processing, 802.11 and 3G wireless, DVD encoding, and web browsing with Flash. An improvement over Vista isn't saying much.


While I agree with you I also don't really care about XP, Ubuntu or Mandriva Linux..
I find the power savings a "bonus" because i will be transitioning to Win7 anyhow. I love it.

False_Dmitry_II 09/02/2009 10:26 PM
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Does that also mean that they fixed the Vista problem of single core applications randomly migrating between cores forcing AMD to keep each core at the same speed instead of clocking down individual cores as was more efficient?

ejarendt 09/02/2009 10:33 PM
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I'd be more interested in seeing a comparison between Windows XP and/or OS X. Improving just about anything compared to Vista is pretty easy - the OS is terrible.

I still think it's pitiful that in eight years, MS hasn't managed to produce an OS that's faster or has better battery life than XP.

Anonymous 09/02/2009 10:53 PM
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I'm stunned that neither Microsoft, any Linux vendor, nor Apple has managed in 30 years to produce an OS that's faster or has better batter life than...DOS. OS's progress and they consume more resources - that's what they do. I don't know why anyone would expect a newer OS with improved features to be faster _other_ than in the case of Vista->Win7.

False_Dmitry_II 09/02/2009 10:57 PM
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ejarendt :
I still think it's pitiful that in eight years, MS hasn't managed to produce an OS that's faster or has better battery life than XP.



That's because EVERY OS system gets bigger as time goes on, no matter how slowly, and more features are implemented. And that includes linux. The fact that windows 7 has the same or less requirements than vista is a pretty good achievement considering what those requirements actually are. Go run windows 95 or whatever Mac OS was around back then on something more recent and it will run much faster than it did back then.

shadow703793 09/02/2009 10:58 PM
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moricon 09/02/2009 11:00 PM
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less = faster but who wants less hey?

Anonymous 09/02/2009 11:08 PM
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If you'll recall from an earlier article, Intel was allowed to help code Windows7 to run faster on Core i7. So.......... I wonder if this improvement in battery life will translate to AMD laptops(doubtful)...

Microsoft also handicaps Phenom II CPUs by over-riding the BIOS TLB fix settings and applying the fix anyways, this is exactly why I'll be sticking with Linux, or XP pro corporate if I absolutely have to have Windows for something...

Cryogenic 09/02/2009 11:16 PM
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False_Dmitry_II :
Does that also mean that they fixed the Vista problem of single core applications randomly migrating between cores forcing AMD to keep each core at the same speed instead of clocking down individual cores as was more efficient?



Yes they have. They actually done more than fix the thread scheduler, they added a new user mode thread scheduler which is more efficient than the kernel thread scheduler.

Dave Probert: Inside Windows 7 - User Mode Scheduler (UMS)

ProDigit80 09/02/2009 11:16 PM
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Ubuntu_9_10_Alpha_or_GTFO :
If you'll recall from an earlier article, Intel was allowed to help code Windows7 to run faster on Core i7. ...


I've read very little about this,but does that also apply to the Corei5's?

ejarendt 09/02/2009 11:21 PM
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False_Dmitry_II :
That's because EVERY OS system gets bigger as time goes on, no matter how slowly, and more features are implemented. And that includes linux. The fact that windows 7 has the same or less requirements than vista is a pretty good achievement considering what those requirements actually are. Go run windows 95 or whatever Mac OS was around back then on something more recent and it will run much faster than it did back then.


Snow Leopard's install size is down to ~10GB from Leopard's ~16GB install size, and it's faster.

An OS doesn't have to keep having more and keep getting bigger. There are redundancies to eliminate, code to optimize, getting rid of legacy support (or making it downloadable instead of bundled), etc.

tektek 09/02/2009 11:30 PM
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I cant say anything about this article..except... thats something really positive to hear..thumbs up!

Anonymous 09/03/2009 12:03 PM
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ejarendt: But where do Win7/OSX/Vista get those huge 10/16gb installer footprints from? It certainly isn't all kernel/OS type code or anything... Take Kubuntu Linux for example. It fits on a CD-R. It looks every bit as nice as Vista/Win7 and OSX, it even comes with a full array of office applications(OpenOffice), internet applications(IM clients, bittorrent, etc..), 3d Desktop FX, and much, much more. The total installer footprint is about 2gb, and from where I'm sitting, it includes far, far more stuff.

ejarendt 09/03/2009 12:06 PM
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16gb_of_pointlessness: exactly - that's my point. OS's don't necessarily have to keep increasing in size.

Trauma 09/03/2009 12:48 PM
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Anonymous 09/03/2009 1:02 AM
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Now install XP and compare. Who cares about vista, it was garbage. What most people want to know is it better battery life then xp.

Anonymous 09/03/2009 1:05 AM
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Trauma: Every installer CD on the planet uses ZIP compression, ~700mb = 2gb unzipped. 16gb on a single DVD? Don't you feel stupid now?

Razor512 09/03/2009 2:14 AM
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On my laptop, windows vista has about a 2 hour battery life and windows 7 estimates about 2:20 but it lasts a bit longer than 2:20

but windows xp will do 3+ hours when I disable all of the crap (12 running processes)

microsoft needs to make a OS when everything disabled and each specific user enables only what they need. this will improve performance and security

many exploits for all versions of windows generally target a specific windows service, some will exploit a flaw in windows server service, others may exploit the terminal service and others may exploit the telnet service or 1 of the 60 or so other services that many users will never use and performance guides will have you disable.

microsoft likes having everything running just in case the user ever wants to use them it will be automatically ready at the cost of the OS using 20 times more memory, and higher CPU usage and lower application performance

try running 3dmark then disable all un-needed windows startup items and services then run it again, you generally get a 500-3000 point increase depending on the system

as newer windows operating systems become more bloated, application performance will go down and more security problems will surface because theres more exploitable code running

it is impossible to write 100% secure code because humans are not 100% perfect

so to minimize security problems, many companies go for only whats needed, which is why windows xp is still the main OS used by businesses
and larger scale companies and machinery will often run a embedded OS thats completely custom made to the job so it is only able to do that task,

in the professional world, less is more because less crap running means more resources to focus on the task at hand.

Upendra09 09/03/2009 2:15 AM
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does this apply to AMD as well cuz if not then AMD is really losing out here

javimars 09/03/2009 2:23 AM
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Anonymous 09/03/2009 2:44 AM
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Who in the name of fanboyism is voting all of these comments down?

ElectroGoofy 09/03/2009 4:03 AM
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Man, I wish that I had known about the power difference..... would've bought an upgrade for my laptop back when it was half price.

davisorle 09/03/2009 5:29 AM
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jhansonxi :
I'd like to see how Win7 power management compares to Vista, XP, and Ubuntu or Mandriva Linux with various tasks including word processing, 802.11 and 3G wireless, DVD encoding, and web browsing with Flash. An improvement over Vista isn't saying much.



Every improvement over Vista matters since Win7 is to not only replace the Vista damage but also do an extrra step in order to sell. Win7, personally, have me. Loving them :)

dante01010 09/03/2009 6:07 AM
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Mac OS Leopard or SNow Leopard blows Windows Vista or 7 in terms of energy eficiency,

alikum 09/03/2009 6:57 AM
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I believe that the test may be flawed. Unless I am missing something, aren't processors designed differently? Think about it, no chips can be the same. In this case, the one running Windows 7 may require less voltage to run compared to the one running on Vista. I'm not trying to argue the fact that Windows 7 is more power efficient, but the fact that even by comparing 2 laptops with similar hardware the result could be flawed.

DjEaZy 09/03/2009 8:16 AM
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... so what??? I tweaked and tuned my Phenom 940, till in idle it runs 700mhz, but under load @ 3600... with traytool i underclocked HD4870 GPU 400; MEM 1600, but at load it runs GPU 800Mhz; MEM 4400Mhz... together with 4x2Gb Transdent 5-5-5-15 @ 1066; 3x80Gb Seagate in RAID0; WD7500AAKS; tvcard and X-FI XtreemGamer my system @ idle uses 155Watt with Windows7... at load its about 390Watt... according to my APC... yes... windows7 is a promising OS... and the power saving gains is because it... i can do all my stuff without any hiccups with a 8 month old rig... it is not like intel is doing it... that's because of collaboration with microsoft... and i think, AMD is doing that too... any hardware maker out there are doing it, because microsoft is having the biggest OS market share... but there is two things to consider... 1) is the CPU the 'biggest' part anyway... why? Most of physics and geometry is done by video cards now... YOU can do video with video cards too using nVidia CUDA or ATi Stream technology, OpenCL... so?! 2) if YOU use the new features provided with the new technology, there is pointless to have a expensive CPU just to post some silly comments, like mine... so my conclusion is... intel needs to sell the next generation of cpu's, but they know, that most of the time the cpu's do just simple stuff like mail, internet, media... so the mesage is... wee have most powerful CPU in the world, but it can run like a cheap power saver too... sins catalyst 8.12 i don't use the cpu, to compress video... i use GPU... much faster...
p.s. Where is the larrabee buz gone?

Trauma 09/03/2009 10:19 AM
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No, to answer your question I don't feel stupid. I learn something new everyday. I don't know everything. I'm learning and will until the day I die. I meant to learn something from my post. Thanx for teaching me something new. Now perhaps someone will teach you a bit on manners one day and you'll not come off like such an ass in the process. Cheers.


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