AMD's Bugfix for Ryzen Stuttering Now Widely Available

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It's now June of 2022, and AMD's new AGESA 1207 microcode has made it to the vast majority of AM4 motherboards on the market - both old and new. This update includes fixes for the infamous fTPM stuttering bug and includes full Ryzen 5000 series CPU support on all older generation AM4 motherboards, including the 300 series and 400 series. Here is a breakdown of the current situation with AGESA 1207 and how motherboard vendors are implementing it.

But before we start, here's a quick rundown on the situation with the microcode bug AGESA 1207 fixes. In March, AMD announced that it had identified a severe stuttering issue on Ryzen systems that was solely related to the Trusted Platform Module. The issue would cause Ryzen systems to stutter or freeze temporarily. The problem is made even worse because TPM support is mandatory for Windows 11.

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  • washmc
    "Out of the four most popular AM4 motherboard manufacturers, Gigabyte sits on top with the strongest support of the AGESA 1207 update. Only one A520 board does not have the update, and that's it. "

    And of course I have an A520. Looks like mine has it though. Got worried. Looks like it's only the GA-A520I-DASH that doesn't have it yet.
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  • btmedic04
    The Asus Rog Strix x370-F Gaming currently in use in my moms computer has an official bios with the 1.2.0.7 agesa present. Ill be upgrading her ryzen 7 1700 to a ryzen 5 5600 soon
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  • Rockett
    I can't speak for all the others but all of gigabytes bios releases so far with AGESA 1.2.0.7 are betas (A letter after the version number denotes this) People are also still reporting the stutter despite having updated to the beta bios with AGESA 1.2.0.7 with their gigabyte motherboards.

    I am personally waiting for a non beta release before I update my x570 aorus master to the latest bios version to see if some peoples claims that the fTPM stutter isnt fixed are true.

    I think you made a typo in the article, all of the gigabyte bios releases for AGESA 1.2.0.7 are beta releases so far.
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  • Sleepy_Hollowed
    I broke down and found an actual TPM module that was flat (didn't hit the GPU, since it's directly under it), and while I had to run an official microcode update on the mobo from the manufacturer on an engineering, last minute-made pdf, it worked, but hopefully this makes it to everyone, it was indeed happening enough so that it did bother game timing while playing.
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  • -Fran-
    Still waiting on Asus for it. My Crosshair VII still running 1.2.0.6b 8(

    The other board I have for the HTPC already has the update. Not that it needed it, but update!

    Regards.
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  • javiindo
    Thanks. I have updated and it looks stable now.
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  • wifiburger
    " Bugfix for Ryzen Stuttering Now Widely Available"

    worthless, agesa 1.2.0.7 is crap for stablity and overclocks; most are just ignoring this crap agesa from AMD
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  • WhiteSnake91
    I had a faulty motherboard that wouldn't accept a newer bios update that was any newer than Aug 2021 without insta BSOD/shutting the pc off before the w10 login screen, or insta crashing/freezing the entire pc once the desktop loaded....bought a new b450 asus mobo and it accepted the new bios, although was still doing the random stuttering fps drop lagging crap in games...pulled CMOS, then it seemed to work and games have been better. Didn't really feel like spending a ton on a motherboard when am4 is EOL anyway

    One thing that sucks is, my fps is about 30-40fps lower testing Fortnite, although, they did just have a total new map overhaul and season come out so it could very well be less optimized, I'm really unsure. It sucks not knowing 100% if it's an unoptimized game or if something is wrong elsewhere. Before, I was getting ~120-130fps on 1440p mostly epic settings with shadows set to high, except with the horrible random stuttering that was driving me mad since my 3700x, 32gb ram, and 3070 gaming pc is more than good enough for high refresh 1440p gaming. I did extensive testing for a long time testing different stuff out until Asus customer support told me about the Ryzen fTPM problem going around that I didn't even know about. I consider myself a techie compared to most people, but, don't really keep up with every little news story every day.

    I'm assuming some w10 update messed with the fTPM stuff that started all this crap, since, games didn't used to stutter and lag. I'm not on w11, and don't plan on being on it begrudgingly until w10 support ends, have heard and read wayyyyy too many bad things about 11 to want to deal with that headache until a few more years have passed for them to iron out the problems. Weird that it only affected Ryzens apparently. If the new mobo and bios didn't fix stuff I was ready in a heartbeat to switch to a i5 12400 6 core 12 thread 12th gen intel, I never ended up streaming like I thought I would so the 3700x threads didn't really help me much. I'd wager even a 10th gen 6c/12t i5 would be fine for this whole PS5/Xbox Series X|S console gen. Streaming encoding can be offloaded to the gpu these days anyway too. Words truly cannot describe how much frustration and trouble this stuttering crap caused me. It really sucked not having a 2nd pc to test stuff on and troubleshoot. I guess I took having a modern (at the time) ddr3 secondary system in years prior for granted. I've now acquired enough parts to Frankenstein together a modern ddr4 secondary system.

    Here's to hoping some other windows update doesn't mess something else up causing horrible stuttering despite strong pc specs. I sure miss the days of stone cold reliable set it and forget it Sandy/Ivy bridge on w7.
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  • Sleepy_Hollowed
    WhiteSnake91 said:
    I had a faulty motherboard that wouldn't accept a newer bios update that was any newer than Aug 2021 without insta BSOD/shutting the pc off before the w10 login screen, or insta crashing/freezing the entire pc once the desktop loaded....bought a new b450 asus mobo and it accepted the new bios, although was still doing the random stuttering fps drop lagging crap in games...pulled CMOS, then it seemed to work and games have been better. Didn't really feel like spending a ton on a motherboard when am4 is EOL anyway

    One thing that sucks is, my fps is about 30-40fps lower testing Fortnite, although, they did just have a total new map overhaul and season come out so it could very well be less optimized, I'm really unsure. It sucks not knowing 100% if it's an unoptimized game or if something is wrong elsewhere. Before, I was getting ~120-130fps on 1440p mostly epic settings with shadows set to high, except with the horrible random stuttering that was driving me mad since my 3700x, 32gb ram, and 3070 gaming pc is more than good enough for high refresh 1440p gaming. I did extensive testing for a long time testing different stuff out until Asus customer support told me about the Ryzen fTPM problem going around that I didn't even know about. I consider myself a techie compared to most people, but, don't really keep up with every little news story every day.

    I'm assuming some w10 update messed with the fTPM stuff that started all this crap, since, games didn't used to stutter and lag. I'm not on w11, and don't plan on being on it begrudgingly until w10 support ends, have heard and read wayyyyy too many bad things about 11 to want to deal with that headache until a few more years have passed for them to iron out the problems. Weird that it only affected Ryzens apparently. If the new mobo and bios didn't fix stuff I was ready in a heartbeat to switch to a i5 12400 6 core 12 thread 12th gen intel, I never ended up streaming like I thought I would so the 3700x threads didn't really help me much. I'd wager even a 10th gen 6c/12t i5 would be fine for this whole PS5/Xbox Series X|S console gen. Streaming encoding can be offloaded to the gpu these days anyway too. Words truly cannot describe how much frustration and trouble this stuttering crap caused me. It really sucked not having a 2nd pc to test stuff on and troubleshoot. I guess I took having a modern (at the time) ddr3 secondary system in years prior for granted. I've now acquired enough parts to Frankenstein together a modern ddr4 secondary system.

    Here's to hoping some other windows update doesn't mess something else up causing horrible stuttering despite strong pc specs. I sure miss the days of stone cold reliable set it and forget it Sandy/Ivy bridge on w7.

    If you're in windows 10 and don't need an ftpm for anything (bitlocker, boot anti-malware, saving hardware keys for UEFI for some custom use case for example), just disable the fTPM.

    On windows 11, that's another story altogether because you need it, and although you can turn it off after installing it, it defeats the FINALLY revealed security feature from ever working without a reinstall: https://www.techspot.com/news/94088-new-windows-11-security-feature-requires-clean-install.html
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  • Roland Of Gilead
    wifiburger said:
    " Bugfix for Ryzen Stuttering Now Widely Available"

    worthless, agesa 1.2.0.7 is crap for stablity and overclocks; most are just ignoring this crap agesa from AMD
    Agree with you there.

    For my Asus B550 Prime, my settings wouldn't allow all core clocks above 4.4ghz and max single core 4.75. Back on previous bios and now my 4.65 all core and 4.85ghz on one or two cores is back.
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