AMD deep-dives Zen 5 architecture — Ryzen 9000 and AI 300 benchmarks, RDNA 3.5 GPU, XDNA 2, and more
Zen 5's 16% IPC improvement floats all boats.
AMD Zen 5 Ryzen AI 300 ‘Strix Point’ Gaming and Productivity Benchmarks
AMD also unveiled the Ryzen AI 300 ‘Strix Point’ processors at Computex 2024. The first laptops with the processors will be available this month at major retailers. AMD didn’t announce any new Strix Point chips but shared new benchmarks.
AMD will launch with the 12-core, 24-thread Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (four Zen 5 cores and eight density-optimized Zen 5c cores) and the 10-core, 20-thread Ryzen AI 9 365 (four Zen 5, six Zen 5C).
The company’s benchmarks focused solely on the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 in the Asus Zenbook S 16 compared to the Intel Core Ultra 9 185H in the Asus Vivobook S 16, and, of course, the elephant in the room: The Snapdragon X Elite X1E-84-100 in the Samsung Galaxy Book 4 (test notes are at the end of the album).
AMD’s productivity benchmarks show a 7% advantage in PCMark 10’s application startup test, a 13% lead in the full PCMark 10 benchmark, a 21% lead in the Procyon office productivity suite, and a 30% advantage in the Kraken web browsing JavaScript benchmark. However, these percentages appear to be relative to the Intel Core Ultra chip and not the Snapdragon laptop. The lack of a labeled axis makes comparisons to the X Elite difficult.
We see another round of somewhat hard-to-decipher results in the content creation tests, but the Ryzen processor takes the overall lead in all but the single-threaded Cinebench 2024 benchmark. There, the Snapdragon X Elite takes the lead, despite the 1.2X label on the AMD chip, and the X Elite is also within striking distance in the multi-threaded Cinebench benchmark. AMD enjoys a massive advantage in the Blender benchmark and carves out respectable leads in HandBrake and PCMark 10, too.
AMD also took on its competitors in gaming, claiming anywhere from a 27% to 65% lead over the Intel Core Ultra 9 processor. Still, again, the specific advantages over the X Elite are less discernible due to poor chart labeling. AMD is however quick to point out that three of the game titles failed to run on the X Elite processor, which isn’t entirely surprising.
We always expect inconsistencies in vendor-provided benchmarks, so take all these results with a grain of salt. The test notes (end of the album) also indicate that the Intel processor only had 16GB of memory compared to the 32GB used for the Ryzen processor, raising the question of whether the Intel system was running in a performance-killing single-channel config — hopefully not, but the lack of a consistent configuration on the memory certainly isn't great to see.
AMD has traditionally shied away from direct performance comparisons with Apple’s M series processors. However, Asus presented its new AMD-powered Zenbook S 16 at the event and shared some of its own benchmarks to highlight the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370’s performance against a competing Apple MacBook Air 15 with an M3 processor. Asus provided sparse test config info in the slide, so we’ll have to take these benchmarks with more than the usual amount of salt.
Asus claims substantial leads over the MacBook Air 15, with wins ranging from a 20% advantage in the Geekbench OpenCL CPU score benchmark to a whopping 118% lead in the UL Procyon benchmark. Other notable wins include a 60% advantage in Cinebench (certainly the multi-threaded benchmark) and a 20% lead in the Geekbench CPU score.
Asus also touted the performance gains to be had with AMD’s Fluid Motion Frames (AFMF) and the 54W Strix Point’s Radeon 890M integrated graphics, showing the combination delivering more performance than a discrete RTX 2050 GPU (60W GPU + 45W CPU). As you would expect, Radeon only led because of the extra frames added by AFMF, a driver-level implementation of frame generation that doesn't always work as well as charts might indicate. (We have two copies of that slide in the deck above, one with the Radeon scores without AFMF and the comparative slide with AFMF enabled.)
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TerryLaze Admin said:AMD revealed the deep-dive details of its Zen 5 Ryzen 9000 ‘Granite Ridge’ and Ryzen AI 300 series ‘Strix Point’ chips at its Zen 5 Tech Day.
AMD deep-dives Zen 5 — Ryzen 9000 and AI 300 benchmarks, Zen 5, RDNA 3.5 GPU, and XDNA 2 microarchitectures : Read moreTDP / PBP / MTP
Please don't use intel specific terminology on ryzen, they don't make any sense.
It's TDP and PPT only for ryzen. -
TerryLaze Also testing was done with a ~ $200 water cooler....just saying but if you need that to run the 9950x at stock, 230w ppt, then it's gonna be a joke, at least on the intel system you would get like ~350W out of that.Reply -
jeremyj_83
So if you can get more performance out of the AMD with a lower power draw that is a negative?TerryLaze said:Also testing was done with a ~ $200 water cooler....just saying but if you need that to run the 9950x at stock, 230w ppt, then it's gonna be a joke, at least on the intel system you would get like ~350W out of that. -
TerryLaze
If you have to pay another $200 on top of the price of the CPU to get the performance that AMD claims then that is a bad thing.jeremyj_83 said:So if you can get more performance out of the AMD with a lower power draw that is a negative?
And I don't know how you do math but 230W of the 9950x is not lower than 230W of the 7950x
Being able to use 330-50W with the same cooling that another CPU can only use 230-50w with is a good thing because that means that if you use less power on it you will have much better temps.
Although we don't know, the other article shows the 9950x using 320W so maybe AMD chose to show overclocking numbers for their presentation, I honestly don't know which would be worse. -
jeremyj_83
Literally none of what you are saying makes sense. On top of that AMD might have used a $200 cooler to make sure that they couldn't be called out for hurting possible i9-14900k performance. Also note that at a 170W TDP the AMD chips have a 230W PPT and that is based on AM5 specifications.TerryLaze said:If you have to pay another $200 on top of the price of the CPU to get the performance that AMD claims then that is a bad thing.
And I don't know how you do math but 230W of the 9950x is not lower than 230W of the 7950x
Being able to use 330-50W with the same cooling that another CPU can only use 230-50w with is a good thing because that means that if you use less power on it you will have much better temps.
Although we don't know, the other article shows the 9950x using 320W so maybe AMD chose to show overclocking numbers for their presentation, I honestly don't know which would be worse. -
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Wow, I lost some IQ points reading that.TerryLaze said:Also testing was done with a ~ $200 water cooler....just saying but if you need that to run the 9950x at stock, 230w ppt, then it's gonna be a joke, at least on the intel system you would get like ~350W out of that. -
TheSecondPower "The chips are also said to come with the new Lion Cove P-cores and Gracemont E-cores." That should say "Skymont E-cores." Gracemont is used in Alder Lake and Raptor Lake.Reply -
TerryLaze jeremyj_83 said:Literally none of what you are saying makes sense. On top of that AMD might have used a $200 cooler to make sure that they couldn't be called out for hurting possible i9-14900k performance. Also note that at a 170W TDP the AMD chips have a 230W PPT and that is based on AM5 specifications.
It's not like it's a secret or in any way controversial that ryzen is very hard to cool.evdjj3j said:Wow, I lost some IQ points reading that.
The same amount of cooling that is required to get the PPT of ryzen at thermal throttle temps is enough to give intel 50% more power draw at 8 degrees lower temp.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/17641/lighter-touch-cpu-power-scaling-13900k-7950x/3