HP reportedly eyes Chinese suppliers for DRAM as global shortage sparks shake-up — analyst says memory chips are commodities that can easily be replaced
The company is reportedly looking for an alternative to Samsung, SK hynix, and Micron.
A tech analyst said that HP is allegedly looking to source memory modules from Chinese suppliers to help address the ongoing shortage. According to Tae Kim’s X post, the tech giant reportedly told Bank of America that it’s “qualifying additional suppliers (China)” for products intended to ship to Asia and other parts of Europe. While it isn’t yet confirmed that HP will move forward with sourcing memory chips from China, it’s certainly taking initial steps to find other sources beyond the big three chip suppliers, namely Micron, Samsung, and SK hynix.
“Unlike the proprietary AI chips made by Nvidia, memory chips are commodities, meaning they can be easily replaced. There is a higher degree of disruption risk,” says Kim. “It may be a year from now or later, but there is a real potential for Chinese companies to expand aggressively into the memory chip and flash memory space.”
The current DRAM and NAND shortages are driven by the massive demand for HBM memory, fueled by the AI infrastructure build-out. But because of the threat of a bubble and the memory market's natural boom-and-bust cycle, memory makers have no plans to increase RAM production. And even if all three companies decide to increase production capacity and build new fabs today, it will take several years for these facilities to come online, meaning the shortage might be well over by then.
Because of this, some smaller Chinese memory manufacturers are poised to capitalize on the shortage of consumer memory. For example, CXMT (ChangXin Memory Technologies), based in Hefei, Anhui Province, China, recently launched DDR5-8000 and LPDDR5X-10667 memory chips, despite U.S. export restrictions on the company. It’s also reportedly preparing for a massive IPO, hoping to capitalize on the tight memory market worldwide. YMTC (Yangtze Memory Technologies Corp.) from Wuhan, China, is also preparing to start DRAM fabrication, and is said to be seeking a partnership with CXMT to start HBM production.
Although CXMT is accused of stealing technology from Samsung to build its first DDR5 chips, the limited global memory supply could lead desperate companies to overlook this and buy memory chips from the company. After all, most end users wouldn’t care where the memory chips in their laptops and pre-built PCs come from, as long as they perform well and are competitively priced.
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Jowi Morales is a tech enthusiast with years of experience working in the industry. He’s been writing with several tech publications since 2021, where he’s been interested in tech hardware and consumer electronics.
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bit_user First, it sounded like Chinese memory makers weren't going to have much volume, in the near future. The whole story about big memory makers exiting the DDR4 market started with China poised to start exporting some, but only in volumes big enough to cause price erosion and not nearly sufficient to completely replace the production of all the existing players. Even though they went more for DDR5 than DDR4, it still sounds like their production volumes aren't enough to make up for the overall DDR5 supply shortage.Reply
Second, I think the Chinese market is probably just as hungry for memory as everyone else. So, I think China won't be a savior, especially since Chinese customers probably get preferential access to their supply.
Finally, I'm curious how these chips compare to ones from the big 3, and particularly SK Hynix. Especially if they're stuck on an older node, do they use a lot more power? How do the timings compare? -
Shiznizzle "And even if all three companies decide to increase production capacity and build new fabs today, it will take several years for these facilities to come online, meaning the shortage might be well over by then."Reply
And yet we are told that this mem shortage could continue for up to a decade. Two little fabs makign DDR5 are now making all of the worlds' ddr5. OF course they are going to say that they are not goign to ramp up production nor build extra capacity. The money is rolling in like you would not believe, that is why. Follow the money.
And only two companies, not three, are now making consumer grade DDR5/RAM. Micron pulled out.
Nearly everything we buy is made in china so what difference does it make if some Chinese fabs now make up for the DDR5 shortfall?
My favorite motherboard maker is MSI and they are chinese.
My beloved french Kuota Kobalt shimano Ultegra DI02 equipped road bike, was made in china.
My Asus and Gigabyte boards would not last more than 2-3 years at the most. My first gen ryzen board make by MSI now live upstairs from me in my neighbors house as i gave her the hardware to run a first gen ryzen 5 1500x. It still performs. Albeit a bit slowly but it still runs.
My last Asus board is prolly in india by now being burned alive for its metals. -
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Geez, why does everyone just assume DRAM makers are acting in bad faith? If you need a villain so badly, look no further than the AI bros.Shiznizzle said:OF course they are going to say that they are not goign to ramp up production nor build extra capacity. The money is rolling in like you would not believe, that is why. Follow the money.
Micron is building 3 new facilities in the US, at least one in Japan, and one in Taiwan.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/micron-to-begin-work-on-usd100-billion-new-york-megafab-imminently-landmark-site-to-produce-40-percent-of-companys-overall-dram-output-in-the-u-s-by-the-2040s https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/micron-plans-hbm-fab-in-japan-as-ai-memory-race-accelerates https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/micron-secures-318-million-taiwanese-subsidy-for-hbm-rd-as-ai-memory-arms-race-intensifies
I don't follow Samsung or SK Hynix as closely, but I'm sure they're also scaling up to meet projected long-term demand.
Wrong. What Micron did was to shutdown its own Crucial brand. The company still sells DDR5 chips on the open market, and anyone can source them to make their own DIMMs. Most DIMM brands are not owned by any of the DRAM fab operators. Crucial was one of the exceptions.Shiznizzle said:And only two companies, not three, are now making consumer grade DDR5/RAM. Micron pulled out.
Headquartered in Taiwan. That's a massive difference. Not so much for a motherboard maker, but it means everything that TSMC is a Taiwanese company, not mainland Chinese.Shiznizzle said:My favorite motherboard maker is MSI and they are chinese.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro-Star_International
There's no comparison between bicycle manufacturing and semiconductor fabrication.Shiznizzle said:My beloved french Kuota Kobalt shimano Ultegra DI02 equipped road bike, was made in china.
They were probably made in factories located in mainland China, just like your MSI board.Shiznizzle said:My Asus and Gigabyte boards would not last more than 2-3 years at the most.