Guide: Overclocking AMD And Intel CPUs On A Budget
Overclocking AMD's Phenom II X4 955
Following the same method used for overclocking the Phenom II X2 550, AMD's quad-core Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition was first set to 1.50 volts for the CPU core, 1.65 volts memory, and 1.45 volts for the memory controller. As soon as we began increasing its CPU core multiplier (“Adjust CPU Ratio” below) however, we found that the CPU cooler simply couldn’t keep up with four cores at full load and our selected voltage.
Stability tests with four threads of 64-bit Prime95 revealed that our system would crash at a CPU core temperature of 59° Celsius, as monitored by AMD OverDrive Utility. We knew that 1.50 volts would be almost ideal for our tests, if only the CPU cooler could keep up. So, rather than start from stock voltage and work our way up, we began with 1.50 volts and worked our way down, until the core no longer reached the offending temperature.
At 1.48 volts the CPU would reach 59° Celsius at a multiplier of 18x, resulting in a Prime95 program error (worker stopped for one core, or program thread). Choosing 1.46 volts allowed a 19x CPU multiplier before the same error occurred at the same temperature. At 1.45 volts (and a 19x CPU multiplier) the program would crash before reaching 59°, indicating more voltage would be required to operate at this speed.
But those voltage levels were achieved using the “CPU VDD Voltage” setting in BIOS, where the “not enough voltage” crash occurred due to voltage fluctuation under full load. Increasing the “CPU Voltage” in MSI's BIOS to 1.480 volts allowed the system to actually run at 1.456 volts under full load with a maximum CPU temperature of around 55°.
Stable at 19 x 200, CPU frequency could still be increased slightly via HT clock, labeled “Adjust CPU FSB Frequency” in the first BIOS screen shot above. Adjusting in increments of 2 MHz, the system was found stable at 202 MHz HT clock, but crashed after around 40 minutes at 204 MHz. 203 MHz allowed it to run without error at full load for several hours, yielding a final overclock of 3.85 GHz.
Peak temperature increased to 56.5° Celsius, barely shy of the 59° limit where heat would cause it to crash. It’s important to note that temperature has far less effect on stability at lower clock speeds, so that systems unable to obtain this relatively mild temperature will be limited in overclocking capability.
At DDR3-1624, our memory supported the same minimum latencies as previously found in the X2 550’s DDR3-1616 DRAM data rate.
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tacoslave i like these "how to" articles but i still want to see the rest of the twkr article you promised us (quad crossfire 4890's) *sigh* a man can dream can't he?Reply -
snakeeater_za Surely people on a budget (like me) would prefer their e5200 to last longer than a 'few months or hopefully a yr to 3?' i know i will upgrade prob in a year or so, so a yr would be fine, but a few months? Pfffft. my proc vid is 1.225 and for 3.33ghz i need a vcore of 1.385 in bios which at idle is 1.36ish. So although im nowhere near 4 at least i wont suffer from electromigration and have to fork out for a new cpu! Just my 2 centsReply -
Crashman snakeeater_zaSurely people on a budget (like me) would prefer their e5200 to last longer than a 'few months or hopefully a yr to 3?' i know i will upgrade prob in a year or so, so a yr would be fine, but a few months? Pfffft. my proc vid is 1.225 and for 3.33ghz i need a vcore of 1.385 in bios which at idle is 1.36ish. So although im nowhere near 4 at least i wont suffer from electromigration and have to fork out for a new cpu! Just my 2 centsReply
It's all a game of averages. Tom's Hardware hasn't accidently killed a processor by overclocking it in a while, though I'm sure a couple editors have intentionally done so to find the voltage limit. The problem is, once again, you can only look at averages.
3 months continuous use at 1.45 volts caused an E8500 to lose its OC stability. It had to be clocked down to become stable again, and lost much of its voltage tolerance. It wasn't destroyed however.
1.40 volts should be significantly safer than 1.45 volts, but until a few people report on how long their cores lasted at 1.40 volts its impossible to tell "how much safer", that is, how much longer it will last. All that's known is that it should last "significantly" longer, but whether that's 4 months (33% longer) or 30 months (10x longer) is the unanswerable question. -
astrodudepsu Good show mate.Reply
I would have liked to see combined charts as a conclusion but that's a minor criticism.
I'm just wondering what the 'next-gen' E5200 (i.e. the intel people's OC'er) will turn out to be? Some flavor of i5 I assume, but who knows. -
JeanLuc LinkReply
"Intel’s value-priced Core 2 Quad Q8200 uses two of the same processor dice as the Pentium E5200....."
I don't know why you choose the Q8200 it's a notoriously bad overclocking chip, if you wanted a budget Intel Quad core that had room for overclocking you should have bought the Q6700/Q6600. -
”Motherboard MSI P45 Diamond LGA-1366, P45/ICH10R, BIOS 1.5 (10/10/2009)”Reply
MSI P45 Diamond is not LGA1366, but LGA775. LGA1366 is for Core i7 processors only, LGA1156 is for Core i5 and i7 (only dual channel DDR3-1333/1066). LGA775 is the old socket, for Celeron D, Celeron 4xx, Pentium Dual Core, Pentium 4, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad. -
da bahstid No games? Like...none at all? Does anybody even overclock for reasons other than games?Reply
Otherwise, pretty good article. Though perhaps a better choice for the Intel quad would have been a 9550...I thought they were under $250 by now. Same time, I guess the Q8200 does seem to be a more difficult overclocker...Intel may have intended this to be the case so as not to gut sales of their Q9000 series. And readers may as well know before jumping on a Q8200 thinking it'll overclock like an E5200.