Updated: Tuning C'n'Q: Maximize Power And Performance, Part 2

Update: The Athlon II X4 620

Additional testing with the Socket AM3-based platform reveals lower power consumption with all AM3 processors using the same settings. Originally, we had intended to update the entire article with the results with the new platform, but fate intervened. We do have results with Cinebench R10, which we feel is sufficient to demonstrate performance in the the scenarios we wanted to emphasize (single- and multi-threaded performance).

Below, you'll find the values we measured with the AM2 platform compared to AM3 platform. The two additional cores on the Athlon II X4 620 help it forward in the multi-threaded rendering test, putting it halfway between the Athlon II X2 250 and Phenom II X4 955.

If we look at the total power consumed during a complete run of Cinebench R10, we see there's quite a significant difference between Socket AM2 and the newer AM3-based platform. Although the Phenom II X4 955 BE has higher power consumption at load, total power consumption is actually about the same as the Athlon II X4 620. So, unless you're constrained by procurement cost, the Phenom II X4 955 BE has much to offer compared to the Athlon II X4 620.

One additional note about the platform: we were only able to achieve these numbers after switching the PSU. The lower-wattage Enermax Tomahawk 405W is more efficient at lower loads than the PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750W we used previously. It's also much cheaper (at around $45), although phantom power is higher (2.5W rather than the 1W we were getting previously). This can be easily handled by a using a smart power plug that cuts off power below a certain value. We think this is a much better-balanced platform, since it hits low power consumption and still has the headroom for discrete graphics.

  • nzprogamer
    GO AMD go
    i am telling you my next build AMD/ATI
    """I WILL BE BACK"""
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  • jedimasterben
    I'd be interested to see the tests performed on Windows 7 to see what the effect of reducing thread "jumping" would be.
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  • cnox
    Dammit...how can this part 2 article be posted before the Building the Balanced PC Part 2?

    Cumon....
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  • melangex3
    Great Stuff. Keep up the good work. This is the type of review that will keep me coming back. How about throwing in the ever popular 720 BE and the new 620 or 630 just for giggles?
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  • Ryun
    jedimasterbenI'd be interested to see the tests performed on Windows 7 to see what the effect of reducing thread "jumping" would be.
    I was thinking the same thing as well.

    Also, were the BIOSs all updated? The asynchronous clocks problem you're experiencing with Athlon II X2 was supposed to be fixed with updated CPU microcode.
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  • Summer Leigh Castle
    620 and 720? :D
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  • redgarl
    I must admit that lately AMD is impressive. I got a PII X3 720 BE unleashed at PII X4 20 fully stable with an Asus M4A78T-E latest BIOS. Let simply add that my 2 radeon 4850 OC in Crossfire are running as fast as 2 stock 4870...

    If you take into account that the 2 cards only cost 82$ each for a total of 165$ for the two... I can hardly believe that so little money can give so much results.
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  • JimmiG
    With my Phenom X4 9650, I found Cool n Quiet to be pretty much worthless without tweaks. There were huge performance drops across the board, especially with tasks that didn't use all four cores, or only loaded cores partially. Videos and games would stutter and skip every couple of frames, compressing files would take longer etc. I basically had a 1.1 GHz CPU that would sometimes run at 2.3 GHz, if it felt like it. Too bad there was no tweak guide available then. I just disabled CnQ which solved all problems but made the system use more power and run hotter.

    With my 955BE, I haven't really had a need to tweak CnQ. It might cause a slight performance hit in some rare cases, but generally when I need a 3.2 GHz CPU, that's what it delivers.
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  • tacoslave
    Nice, amd owns in the graphics department now with that $1.2 billion im sure amd is heading to pwn BOTH markets.
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  • saint19
    Good!!!, I have my 955 to 3.8GHz at 1.5V....
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