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6:31 PM - September 8, 2009 by Marcus Yam

How fast and for how much.

Today's the big debut for Intel's Lynnfield processors. To learn all about what's so great about these new chips, check out our full coverage. All the reading, thanks to the hard work of our Managing Editor Chris Angelini, should keep you occupied for some time.

For a quick summary, however, of what's new today, clock speeds, cache sizes, cores and how much they'll cost, peep the table below:

Check out the following guides and reviews to Intel's new chip below. All three articles were published today!

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In Theory: How Does Lynnfield's On-Die PCI Express Affect Gaming?

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IronRyan21 09/09/2009 1:18 AM
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I love the price difference between i7 870 and i7 860. Its only 133 Mhz diff, yet almost $300 diff in price. I cant wait for Tom's to come out with OC guide for i7-860, that will be a real value.

SneakySnake 09/09/2009 1:33 AM
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matt87_50 09/09/2009 1:47 AM
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SneakySnake :
Is the i7 860 the replacement for the 920 ?



depends if you have your heart set on tripple channel. but if its the same price or cheaper than the 920, I think u'd be crazy not to go for the 860, hell, even the i5 is the same clock speed as the 920, and it turbos higher, you don't get hyperthreading, but especially for gaming, i'm not a big fan of hyperthreading anyway, don't think it makes much of a difference (i have a 920), will be interesting to see the 920 and the i5 compared in games.

doomtomb 09/09/2009 1:48 AM
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IronRyan21 :
I love the price difference between i7 870 and i7 860. Its only 133 Mhz diff, yet almost $300 diff in price. I cant wait for Tom's to come out with OC guide for i7-860, that will be a real value.


Yep, I don't know why Intel even bothers with the 870 if it's going to end up being more than twice the cost. Pretty stupid really.

huron 09/09/2009 1:56 AM
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If I were building right now, that i7 960 looks plenty nice. Check out the article here and at anandtech for some great discussion on these new chips. I wish I could get one - seeing the benchmarks and reviews makes me excited for the new tech.

scook9 09/09/2009 1:58 AM
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that is intel's typical price strategy for the highest model in a series (non extreme that is)

The Q6700 was the same was as were the Q9550 then the Q9650 and the i7 940 and 950 when they all first came out

The moral of the story is buy the 2nd best and OC the shizzle out of it :)

And I am still VERY happy with my i7 920 ($200) and Rampage II GENE ($230) even with the prices of the new parts, I didn't pay that much more and it will pay off in the long run for sure

aspireonelover 09/09/2009 2:12 AM
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:O I'm surprised that the CPUs consume a huge amount of power. I thought they would consume 65W honestly...

Hellbound 09/09/2009 2:12 AM
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So these new procs dont have a triple channel option? I'm noticing all the mobos for socket 1156 are dual channel.

cangelini 09/09/2009 2:30 AM
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Hellbound :
So these new procs dont have a triple channel option? I'm noticing all the mobos for socket 1156 are dual channel.



Correct! LGA 1156-based board are all going to be dual-channel.

piasabird 09/09/2009 2:53 AM
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I dont like the TDP column. The Idle technology that is being used on the quads is a major breakthrough. This creates a variable TDP as unused cores are put to sleep and remaining cores can even speed up.

False_Dmitry_II 09/09/2009 4:18 AM
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piasabird :
I dont like the TDP column. The Idle technology that is being used on the quads is a major breakthrough. This creates a variable TDP as unused cores are put to sleep and remaining cores can even speed up.



Sure, but you still need to know the maximum. IIRC AM2+ boards can have a limit to which phenom II processors can be used depending on the TDP.

Besides that everything's got some kind of clock down type stuff that saves power, and that kind of thing is best left to indepth articles rather than a chart.

iquark 09/09/2009 8:07 AM
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I really would have expected the i7-860 1k price at least a little below the 920. Even a token 10$ would have at least made it seem a better value.

I know they're not the same platform, and technically may not be aimed at the same market, however it would be very hard to pass up i7/ddr3 etc for only a couple bucks.

anamaniac 09/09/2009 12:26 PM
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http://processorfinder.intel.com/L [...] SearchKey=
It says the i7-870 has only 2 cores... hmm... reported to Intel...

Awesome to see that they are finally public. ^_^

Andraxxus 09/09/2009 12:37 PM
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Let's see how will they fare once DirectX11 cards(and games) are out perhapse that will be a better way to decide what to build for the near future.

anamaniac 09/09/2009 12:41 PM
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Newegg.com prices. Newegg.com. All have free shipping.
i5-750 $209.99
i7-860 $299.99
i7-870 $579.99

In Canadian dollars. Newegg.ca. No free shipping.
i7-750 $239.99
i7-860 $329.99
i7-870 $659.99

Current exchange rate:
1 USD = 1.06979 CAD
1 CAD = 0.93476 USD
(Newegg once again shows little love for its Canadian counterpart.)

Newegg.com is not yet stocking the Xeons.


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