Confirmed: Apple Puts Wrench Into Hackintoshes
Netbooks with OS X now stranded in time.
It's been somewhat of a micro-saga going on in the PC netbook hobbyist camp who like to run Mac OS X, but now Apple has officially fired the first shot.
Developer builds of the latest Mac OS X build 10.6.2 were unable to run on netbooks built on the Intel Atom processor. This was significant as many of those who have hacked Apple's operating system to run on a PC were doing so on netbooks.
While the hackintosh community has been mostly ignored by Apple thus far (unless you're a commercial business selling hackintoshes), this marks a proactive step for the company in stomping out unauthorized usage of its software.
Those who have taken the plunge to 10.6.2 have discovered that their systems are now unable to boot, as it just puts itself in an infinite loop of restarts.
Oddly enough, those with hackintosh computers built using other Intel processors that aren't the Atom are not affected. This means that Psystar computers will accept the update without such an issue.
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I guess Apple needs a "win" somewhere since they keep getting ROFL-stomped in the iPhone jailbreaking scene and that other mobile device that keeps getting patched to play songs or use iTunes... forget wth that was...
APPLE SAPPING MAH NETBOOK!
Seriously, Apple. These guys are paying you to run your software and you deny it to them because they didn't want the overpriced hardware? I thought you guys liked money.
This plays right into their smarmy image if you ask me. If they cant get 1k out of you then they want nothing from you.
People commend Apple for charging $40 for their OS, but they forget that its because they charge you a lot more for the hardware that the OS is so cheap comparatively with Windows.
Just run Linux or Darwin... Who needs Apple anyhow?
HAHAHA Apple is just jealous hobbyists can build much better systems at much lower cost using the Apple OS. Bunch of wankers... after all, they wouldn't want the ignorant masses to know how much Apple keeps screwing them.
I remember commenting (incorrectly) that an Atom probably couldn't even run OSx. Well, now, apparently Apple agreed with my assessment and is now preventing their customers from receiving a "less than ideal" experience. Good for Apple, listening to customer feedback, er.., if only I had ever bought an Apple product in my life.
Really, for as limited as netbooks are, why would you need all that "it just works" functionality of OSx to being with? All that iBS software just takes up space on a limited harddrive.
I'd rather pay for a nice and custom version of Linux, the GNU folk are always happy to share their progress.
< Waiting Patiently for Apple to RickRoll everyone's Hackintosh >
...after all, if it's good enough for an iPhone!
Ubuntu =D
How many news articles do we need about the atom not working on snow leopard builds?
Also why doesn't Apple use the atom cpu, it sucks as much as a mac book. Should be fitting for an Apple product, just mark it up 10x and slap an apple logo on it and sell.
If the 'fix' is more than masking the Atoms CPU ID, then its a hardware issue where the Atom doesn't have a function the OS is looking to use (throws an exception and resets instead of showing you there is a hardware exception).
Stop writing play-by-play articles on Apple and hacking its OS. "Hey guys I just got Linux to run in my PC! hax!" oh wait...
See how ridiculous it is when you replace OSX with something functional?
OS X 10.5 runs better than Windows 7 on my Mini 9, though both are very usable. I don't care about this anyway and 10.6 has no important updates for me.
When you get into talking about misusing software because you have to buy their hardware, you're talking about 10x the negative impact of any kind of microsoft bundling software w\ their os damages.
didn't microsoft have to pay out millions, billions for bundling internet explorer w\ windows? or something.... help me out people.
They shouldn't be allowed to stipulate in their EULA that you must run their software on their hardware. If others took on the same approach, we would be living in the 80s.
And people think Windows Genuine Advantage is a pain in the ass. At least Microsoft doesn't give the pirates/thieves/hackers (whatever you want to call them) the finger and put your system into an infinite reboot.
APPLE SAPPING MAH NETBOOK!Seriously, Apple. These guys are paying you to run your software and you deny it to them because they didn't want the overpriced hardware? I thought you guys liked money.
Paying? Please. The vast majority of people running Hackintosh Netbooks are running pirated copies they downloaded online. Don't fool yourself into thinking Apple actually makes any money from Hackintosh Netbooks.
Paying? Please. The vast majority of people running Hackintosh Netbooks are running pirated copies they downloaded online. Don't fool yourself into thinking Apple actually makes any money from Hackintosh Netbooks.
I'd like to see the proof backing up your comment
Begun, the clone wars have...
Begun, the clone wars have...
Who is the evil Emperor, Ballmer or Jobs?
I patent the notion of being a greedy and/or a jackass.
After that, I will use Apple among many others *mad scientist laugh*
Keep in mind though that Apple Computer doesn't have as much money as Microsoft. I dunno where you guys are getting the greedy part from. As much as I know Macs are overpriced, they have a very small market share and that is mainly why they are. Although if they were smart they'd sell their computers at prices competative to HP. You can sell more products that way.
But ugh... Atom processors? come on. we aren't in the stone age here. I checked benchmark score for the fasted Atom and it ranks 300 and an i7 laptop cpu ranks 4000. Huge difference there. I wouldn't buy it.
I patent the notion of being a greedy and/or a jackass.After that, I will use Apple among many others *mad scientist laugh*
I think you mean "sue"
Haha, nice one, good luck.
Apple can simply put a permanent wrench into Hackintosh. All they need to do is get IBM to design a new powerPC processor that is more efficient and powerful than Intels best processor line and revert back to that architecture. That would settle it once and for all.
I'd like to see the proof backing up your comment
I'd like to see the proof backing up yours.
First, Apple's only "proactive step" was towards negating US Copyright Law. Second, forcing computer hardware into an infinite loop that will inevitably fry circuitry sounds like an intentional tort to me.
I don't get why someone would intentionally put OSX on their computer. I mean, if you want to pirate something, shouldn't you pick an OS with the largest software library (windows)? And if you want stability, shouldn't you pick Linux? Maybe a solid Debian based distro like Unbuntu. And, if you want something trendy, maybe Sabayon.
All a Machine with OSX says to me is "My owner is a complete moron". I don't care if its on a Netbook or not. Seriously.
I'd like to see the proof backing up your comment
That's pretty simple. Just do a google search for "how to install os x on my netbook" and you'll be inundated with instructions on downloading modified copies of OS X.
Or you could head over to any number of torrenting websites and count up the sheer number of current seeders running kalyway and other edited versions of OS X.
I also have the business sense. If there were a large number of people actually spending $120 to run OS X on their netbook I really don't think Apple would mind.
Don't let information get in the way of your bias though.
Who is the evil Emperor, Ballmer or Jobs?
Jobs with Nvidia's CEO as General Grevious
Some people pirate. I pirate sometimes. But when I like a product, I pay for it.
I am not biased. You are the ones that believe that nobody would actually pay for a product they want.
It'll probably be a matter of time before someone out there comes up with another hack and Apple's OS will once again run on the hackintosh.
I don't own an Apple product, never have, but... How do you know for sure that Apple is purposefully "denying" netbook users? It's quite possible that they're using some optimized code in OSX 10.6.2 that uses certain CPU features (which could include newer versions of SSE, VT, etc.) that would be common to all of the Intel CPU models that they officially sell, but which are not present in the Atom, which has a significantly thinner instruction set than Intel's other CPUs. Executing an unsupported CPU instruction would cause big problems (such as an instant reboot), and Apple has no need to optimize OSX to work on CPUs they don't sell. Why would they?