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GeForce GTX 880M, 870M, And 860M: Mobile GPUs, Tested

GeForce GTX 880M, 870M, And 860M: Mobile GPUs, Tested
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Nvidia is in the process of rolling out its GeForce GTX 800M-series graphics modules. Despite the new name, we're still looking at GK104-based GPUs. One thing is for sure, though: the processor is running faster than ever. We benchmark three models.

Sometimes it feels like desktop gamers get all of the cool toys, while the notebook guys get hand-me-downs. Rare is it that a new graphics processor debuts in the mobile space. There's just so much more involved when you bring technology down into limiting form factors and power budgets. 

It really comes as no surprise, then, that we're on a third generation of mobile products with Nvidia's GK104 in the mix. After all, that was quite the efficient GPU when it launched more than two years ago. Today it remains viable as the engine driving Nvidia's highest-end GeForce GTX 800-series modules. Let's take a look at some of the brand's specs:

Nvidia GeForce GTX 880M Comparative Specs
 Desktop
GTX 780
Notebook
GTX 880M
Notebook
GTX 780M
Notebook
GTX 680MX
Desktop
GTX 680
Shaders23041536153615361536
Texture Units192128128128128
Full Color ROPs4832323232
Graphics Clock MHz
(Boost)
863 (900)954 (993)771 (797)7201006 (1058)
Texture Fillrate166 Gtex/s122.1 Gtex/s105.3 Gtex/s92.2 Gtex/s128.8 Gtex/s
Memory Clock1502 MHz1250 MHz1250 MHz1250 MHz1502 MHz
Memory Bus384-bit256-bit256-bit256-bit256-bit
Memory Bandwidth288 GB/s160 GB/s160 GB/s160 GB/s192 GB/s
Graphics RAM3 GB GDDR58 GB GDDR54 GB GDDR54 GB GDDR52 GB GDDR5
Die Size551 mm²294 mm²294 mm²294 mm²294 mm²
Transistors (Billion)7.13.543.543.543.54
Process Technology28 nm28 nm28 nm28 nm28 nm

The original GeForce GTX 680M appeared to be an underclocked GeForce GTX 670; Nvidia quickly augmented performance through an updated GeForce GTX 680MX.

Here's the thing: you have a certain amount of freedom to ramp up clock rate and voltage on a graphics card designed for a desktop PC. Transitioning to a mobile form factor limits flexibility immensely. Sure, we've seen some huge desktop replacements with big graphics power inside. But both AMD and Nvidia are trying to enable technologies that make maximum performance available when it's needed, then scaling back as much as possible when it isn't.

Like the GeForce GTX 780M, Nvidia's recently-introduced 880M lifts all eight SMX units from the GK104 processor. Whereas the 780M operated at a 771 MHz base clock rate, however, the 880M starts at 954 MHz. Nvidia gives it a typical GPU Boost rating of 993 MHz. Both of those figures are far closer to the desktop GeForce GTX 680 (even if the new mobile flagship carries over the 780M's slower GDDR5-5000 data rate).

At least on the specification side, there's little more than this frequency increase to discuss. Memory density doubles, but without the large jump in GPU spec needed to push similarly-increased display resolutions. So, we have to hope that the latest GK104s coming out of TSMC are running faster at lower voltages to keep power and heat under control.

Nvidia GeForce GTX 870M Comparative Specs
 Desktop
GTX 770
Notebook
GTX 870M
Notebook
GTX 770M
Notebook
GTX 670MX
Desktop
GTX 670
Shaders153613449609601344
Texture Units1281128080112
Full Color ROPs3232242432
Graphics Clock MHz
(Boost)
1046 (1085)941 (967)706 (797)600915 (980)
Texture Fillrate134 Gtex/s105.4 Gtex/s64.9 Gtex/s48 Gtex/s102.5 Gtex/s
Memory Clock1753 MHz1250 MHz1002 MHz700 MHz1502 MHz
Memory Bus256-bit192-bit192-bit192-bit256-bit
Memory Bandwidth224 GB/s120 GB/s96 GB/s67.2 GB/s192 GB/s
Graphics RAM2 GB GDDR56 GB GDDR53 GB GDDR53 GB GDDR52 GB GDDR5
Die Size294 mm²294 mm²221 mm²221 mm²294 mm²
Transistors (Billion)3.543.542.542.543.54
Process Technology28 nm28 nm28 nm28 nm28 nm

Moving down the stack, Nvidia's GeForce GTX 870M gives mobile users the same seven SMX units from the desktop GeForce GTX 670. The previous two generations (GeForce GTX 770M and 670MX) were both based on GPUs with five SMX blocks instead.

The new GeForce GTX 860M offers an even bigger surprise, also utilizing the GK104 graphics processor. In this implementation, however, it includes six functional SMX units, yielding 1152 CUDA cores, similar to Nvidia's GeForce GTX 760 card. Of course, it operates at far lower base and typical GPU Boost frequencies, and is complemented by slower GDDR5-5000 memory on a narrower 128-bit bus. But that's all in the name of pulling power lower and making the 860M work in a line-up of other GK104-driven modules.

Nvidia GeForce GTX 860M Comparative Specs
 Desktop
GTX 760
Notebook
GTX 860M
Notebook
GTX 765M
Notebook
GTX 660M
Desktop
GTX 660
Shaders11521152768384960
Texture Units9696643280
Full Color ROPs3216161624
Graphics Clock MHz
(Boost)
980 (1033)797 (915)797 (863)835980 (1033)
Texture Fillrate94 Gtex/s76.5 Gtex/s54.4 Gtex/s26.7 Gtex/s78.4 Gtex/s
Memory Clock1502 MHz1250 MHz1002 MHz1250 MHz1502 MHz
Memory Bus256-bit128-bit128-bit128-bit192-bit
Memory Bandwidth192 GB/s80 GB/s64 Gb/s80 GB/s144.2 GB/s
Graphics RAM2 GB GDDR54 GB GDDR52 GB GDDR52 GB GDDR52 GB GDDR5
Die Size294 mm²294 mm²221 mm²118 mm²221 mm²
Transistors (Billion)3.543.542.541.32.54
Process Technology28 nm28 nm28 nm28 nm28 nm

There's a caveat, though. Nvidia specifies its GeForce GTX 860M with two completely different GPUs. The same we received, of course, employs GK104. But you'll also find GeForce GTX 860Ms based on the GM107 found in the GeForce GTX 750 Ti. That’s kind of like reserving a 16-hand gelding for your day at the ranch and arriving to find a Shetland pony.

Of course, it's hard to say how both versions compare without having them both on-hand for testing. The GM107-based version is configured to run at similar clock rates as the card we tested in GeForce GTX 750 Ti Review: Maxwell Adds Performance Using Less Power, albeit with a slightly lower memory frequency. Meanwhile, GK104 is pared way back.

Without performance data to look at, we have to hope that Nvidia is realizing similar results from GK104 and GM107. If it's not, the most we can do right now is make you aware of the two different versions of GeForce GTX 860M.

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    CaptainTom , April 23, 2014 12:15 AM
    Eh these generations are all the same cards. Show us a 980M with full maxwell. Then we'll talk...
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    dscudella , April 23, 2014 1:05 AM
    Looks like maybe two more generations before we see single gpu 4K mobile gaming.
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    Puiucs , April 23, 2014 1:21 AM
    we need them to finish working on 20nm fast. TSMC just can't do it anymore. global foundries has 14nm only on paper too....
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    guvnaguy , April 23, 2014 4:09 AM
    I'm actually fairly impressed. Their website says a max of 6 hours battery on "UMA" mode. Would you be able to test this, Tom?

    Previously I wouldn't consider getting a gaming laptop due to their short battery life, even when not gaming. But if a laptop with this kind of hardware can manage 5 - 6 hours, I'd consider it...
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    ubercake , April 23, 2014 4:30 AM
    Page one gives the impression you might include desktop cards so we could get a frame of reference with regard to desktop v laptop GPU performance. Then I looked immediately at the BF4 page and found no desktop GPUs in the performance charts?
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    Ninjawithagun , April 23, 2014 4:54 AM
    Highly disappointed overall by the 800M series performance. I can feel assured that my GTX780Ms in my Alienware 18 will serve me well for at least another year. So, whatever happened to multi-core GPUs?? The concept works well for desktop CPUs, yet we have not seen it in desktop or mobile GPUs as of yet? ATI's Hawaii GPU comes close in certain aspects regarding behavior like a multi-core GPU by handing off processes to other chips within the die. One step closer to a next-gen GPU, yet still so far...
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    jrharbort , April 23, 2014 6:24 AM
    A shame this didn't include the Maxwell-based 860M. It performs much more in line with what we'd expect from a true next-gen mobile chip (I'm currently using said chip, and still exercising its capabilities). I can say it's roughly 30% faster than the previous gen 765M, and benchmarks by others have shown it to be twice as fast as the GTX 660M while staying at a max of 50W TDP. I've yet to do any real benchmarking myself, so if anyone cares to see any, leave me some suggestions of what to use (preferably free software).
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    hannibal , April 23, 2014 7:13 AM
    Is there any way of knowing if you get kepler 860 or maxwell 860 when you buy a laptop?
    I hate these kind of naming tricks... Even 860a and 860b or anything that gives out what you will get.
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    jrharbort , April 23, 2014 7:24 AM
    Quote:
    Is there any way of knowing if you get kepler 860 or maxwell 860 when you buy a laptop?
    I hate these kind of naming tricks... Even 860a and 860b or anything that gives out what you will get.
    It is difficult to know unless you get more specific information from the manufacturer before purchase (or find benchmarks of the computer model you're looking at beforehand). The MSi GE60 Apache Pro was the first notebook to feature the Maxwell-based 860M.
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    dstarr3 , April 23, 2014 7:38 AM
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    So, whatever happened to multi-core GPUs?? The concept works well for desktop CPUs, yet we have not seen it in desktop or mobile GPUs as of yet?


    GPUs have been multi-core for ages now. Well beyond desktop cores, even. The GTX880M in particular is a 1,536-core GPU. Similar numbers have been around for a long time.
    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-880m/specifications
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    Steveymoo , April 23, 2014 9:02 AM
    Scumbag Nvidia. Want a new GPU? Here's exactly the same piece of silicon with a slightly faster clock rate and increased power usage, and higher price. Laziest business model ever.
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    Crashman , April 23, 2014 9:10 AM
    Quote:
    I'm actually fairly impressed. Their website says a max of 6 hours battery on "UMA" mode. Would you be able to test this, Tom?

    Previously I wouldn't consider getting a gaming laptop due to their short battery life, even when not gaming. But if a laptop with this kind of hardware can manage 5 - 6 hours, I'd consider it...
    We have a couple complete notebooks set aside for that type of review :) 

    Quote:
    Highly disappointed overall by the 800M series performance. I can feel assured that my GTX780Ms in my Alienware 18 will serve me well for at least another year. So, whatever happened to multi-core GPUs?? The concept works well for desktop CPUs, yet we have not seen it in desktop or mobile GPUs as of yet? ATI's Hawaii GPU comes close in certain aspects regarding behavior like a multi-core GPU by handing off processes to other chips within the die. One step closer to a next-gen GPU, yet still so far...
    GPU's have been multi-core for several generations. And dual-GPU mobile solutions have come and gone several times as AMD basically applied a dual-GPU name to a pair of notebook modules (in CrossFire).

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    John Wittenberg , April 23, 2014 9:30 AM
    "Is there any way of knowing if you get kepler 860 or maxwell 860 when you buy a laptop?
    I hate these kind of naming tricks... Even 860a and 860b or anything that gives out what you will get."

    Yes, the 860M Maxwell is a 2GB card that is soldered directly onto the motherboard with only 640 cuda cores w/ 50W TDP. The Kelper 860M is 4GB and is MXM (replaceable) with 1152 cuda cores w/ 75W TDP.
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    John Wittenberg , April 23, 2014 9:32 AM
    As an addendum, I was unaware that the Kepler 860M even came in 2GB - but according to Tom's it is?
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    Menigmand , April 23, 2014 9:51 AM
    I would love to see a comparison benchmark between mobile maxwell (860m) and desktop maxwell (750 Ti)
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    h2323 , April 23, 2014 10:04 AM
    Toms never gets anything right, should have added a radeon or two to the bench's, updated in this test.
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    Crashman , April 23, 2014 10:11 AM
    Quote:
    Toms never gets anything right, should have added a radeon or two to the bench's
    Already done:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780m-770m-765m,3732.html

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    cynic77 , April 23, 2014 10:18 AM
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    As an addendum, I was unaware that the Kepler 860M even came in 2GB - but according to Tom's it is?


    I was going to comment earlier and ask Thomas about this. Did Origin PC come up with custom 800M-series modules for this article?... or was half the VRAM somehow disabled? If not, I'm confused. The EON17-S as available on their web site comes with the "standard" double-memory configurations - 4 GB for the 860M, 6 GB for the 870M, and a whopping 8 GB for the 880M. I didn't see this mentioned in the article at all. On other forums, users have indicated this "double-VRAM" is a waste. It would have been nice if this article had put the "double-VRAM" to the test, especially at the QHD resolution.
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    Crashman , April 23, 2014 10:55 AM
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    Quote:
    As an addendum, I was unaware that the Kepler 860M even came in 2GB - but according to Tom's it is?


    I was going to comment earlier and ask Thomas about this. Did Origin PC come up with custom 800M-series modules for this article?... or was half the VRAM somehow disabled? If not, I'm confused. The EON17-S as available on their web site comes with the "standard" double-memory configurations - 4 GB for the 860M, 6 GB for the 870M, and a whopping 8 GB for the 880M. I didn't see this mentioned in the article at all. On other forums, users have indicated this "double-VRAM" is a waste. It would have been nice if this article had put the "double-VRAM" to the test, especially at the QHD resolution.
    I checked the pictures in the article's image gallery :)  GPU-Z shows that the memory amount in the tables was wrong, so I corrected the tables. Thanks! I wish someone would have caught this earlier, but I'm glad I at least got to correct it the same day.
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    mikeangs2004 , April 23, 2014 12:29 PM
    I wouldn't buy a laptop like this from rjtech nor SSD until M.2 10G comes out
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