The AMD Ryzen 7 5700U (via @TUM_APISAK) has emerged in an Ashes of the Singularity submission. The model name makes it pretty clear that the chip hails from AMD's next-generation lineup that succeeds the Ryzen 4000-series (codename Renoir) APUs.
Where the Ryzen 7 5700U's belongs is currently a mystery, but there are two prospects that are being thrown around: one is Lucienne and the other is Cezanne. AMD's affection for using famous painters' surnames as the codenames for its processors is well known, and sometimes the chipmaker's selection might provide some clues.
A quick search shows that Lucienne was an artist herself, but more importantly, she was the secret love child between Pierre-Auguste Renoir and Frédérique Vallet-Bisson. Given the connection between Lucienne and Renoir, it's fairly safe to assume that AMD's codenamed Lucienne APUs could be an iteration of Renoir. If that's the case, Lucienne should still be wielding Zen 2 cores and Vega graphics. On the flipside, there's Cezanne that's rumored to sport Zen 3 cores, but still retain the Vega engine.
According to the submission, the Ryzen 7 5700U comes equipped with eight cores and 16 threads. At first glance, the name suggests that it's the direct successor to the existing Ryzen 7 4700U, however, that doesn't seem to be the case.
While the Ryzen 7 4700U is indeed an octa-core chip, the chip lacks simultaneous multi-threading (SMT). The Ryzen 7 4800U, on the other hand, comes with a eight-cores, 16-thread design, therefore, the Ryzen 7 5700U is closer to the Ryzen 7 4800U than the Ryzen 7 4700U. It's interesting though that AMD seemingly decided to unlock the full configuration on the Ryzen 7 5700U.
The anonymous submitter tested the Ryzen 7 5700U on Ashes of the Singularity with the 1080p Low Preset on the Vulkan API. Unfortunately, there aren't any Ryzen 7 4800U or Ryzen 7 4700U submissions that match those parameters so an apples-to-apples comparison wasn't possible. Furthermore, the Ashes of the Singularity submissions don't expose the clock speeds for the processor. For now, we'll just have to wait for another leak to get a glimpse of the potential performance uplifts that AMD's Ryzen 5000-series APUs could bring to the table.
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InvalidError On one hand, we have hints saying that Zen 3 will get 5000-branding to end the CPU architecture discrepancy between APUs and CPUs, and now we have a rumor of Zen 2 APUs getting recycled into the 5000 series. If that turns out to be true, AMD's marketing needs a sanity check.Reply -
daworstplaya AMD really screwed the pooch when it comes to naming between their desktop CPUs and mobile CPUs. Would it have killed them to put them on the same version number from the start regardless of what the underlying architecture is?Reply
Now you have this stupid situation where they might actually skip a numbering generation. I find that extremely illogical and dumb. -
Kamen Rider Blade Reply
I've always had the same feeling about their mobile/APU naming schemes.daworstplaya said:AMD really screwed the pooch when it comes to naming between their desktop CPUs and mobile CPUs. Would it have killed them to put them on the same version number from the start regardless of what the underlying architecture is?
Now you have this stupid situation where they might actually skip a numbering generation. I find that extremely illogical and dumb.
Honestly, they should move the Mobile/DeskTop APU's to R8/R6/R4 instead of matching the Desktop R7/R5/R3 monikers.
That +1 increment can easily let the customers know that they're getting an APU instead of normal DeskTop chip that doesn't have graphics. -
DonGato Reply
I'm still waiting for the day when manufactures put cpu/gpu hierarchies and abbreviation meanings on box's and websites so everyone knows exactly what they are getting. I feel like happy informed custers e back for more. Oh well only been waiting 20 years. Patience is a virtue I am told.Kamen Rider Blade said:I've always had the same feeling about their mobile/APU naming schemes.
Honestly, they should move the Mobile/DeskTop APU's to R8/R6/R4 instead of matching the Desktop R7/R5/R3 monikers.
That +1 increment can easily let the customers know that they're getting an APU instead of normal DeskTop chip that doesn't have graphics. -
Endymio >> "Given the connection between Lucienne and Renoir, it's fairly safe to assume that AMD's codenamed Lucienne APUs could be an iteration of Renoir. If that's the case, Lucienne should still be wielding Zen 2 cores and Vega graphics....Reply
That's an incredibly weak chain of logic. If you're even going to stoop to reasoning along these lines, I would say that Lucienne, being the child of Renoir, would therefore be Zen 3, not Zen 2. That also corresponds to earlier reports about the 5000-line being used for Zen3. -
King_V ReplyKamen Rider Blade said:I've always had the same feeling about their mobile/APU naming schemes.
Honestly, they should move the Mobile/DeskTop APU's to R8/R6/R4 instead of matching the Desktop R7/R5/R3 monikers.
That +1 increment can easily let the customers know that they're getting an APU instead of normal DeskTop chip that doesn't have graphics.
Or, simpler still . . maybe go with M7/M5/M3 . . or RM7/RM5/RM3, with the M representing Mobile. Possibly switching it to MR instead for "Mobile Ryzen" rather than RM being "Ryzen Mobile." -
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The current model numbering looks fine to me apart from the CPU generations mixing.King_V said:Or, simpler still . . maybe go with M7/M5/M3 . . or RM7/RM5/RM3, with the M representing Mobile. Possibly switching it to MR instead for "Mobile Ryzen" rather than RM being "Ryzen Mobile."
nnnn(X) : desktop CPUs
nnnnG : desktop APUs
nnnnU : low-power mobile
nnnnH(S) : high-power mobile -
King_V Reply
True enough I suppose, I guess I'm stuck trying to figure out what the reasoning is behind the generation number mixing. AMD, please stop doing that!!!InvalidError said:The current model numbering looks fine to me apart from the CPU generations mixing.
nnnn(X) : desktop CPUs
nnnnG : desktop APUs
nnnnU : low-power mobile
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vinay2070 Reply
I was thinking more like R7M R5M and so on ;) Like the GTX460M or 5300M for the GPUs.King_V said:Or, simpler still . . maybe go with M7/M5/M3 . . or RM7/RM5/RM3, with the M representing Mobile. Possibly switching it to MR instead for "Mobile Ryzen" rather than RM being "Ryzen Mobile."