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AMD: Ryzen 5000 Refresh Incoming, Zen 4 and RDNA 3 in 2022

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Following the announcement of AMD's record financial results for Q2 2021, the company's chief executive officer Lisa Su gave a brief glimpse of the company's short-term roadmap. AMD intends to introduce products based on its next-generation Zen 4 and RDNA 3 architectures in 2022. For 2021, the company seems to be planning a refresh of the Ryzen 5000 processor family. 

"We remain on track to launch next generation products in 2022, including our Zen 4 processors built with industry leading 5 nm process technology and our RDNA 3 GPUs," said Lisa Su during the earnings call with analysts and investors (via SeekingAlpha). "Our engineering teams are aggressively driving our product and technology roadmaps to continue setting the pace of innovation for high performance computing." 

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Since AMD introduced its latest Zen 3-based Ryzen 5000-series CPUs for desktops and notebooks very late last year and followed up with Epyc 'Milan' processors for servers in March, it was not really likely that the company will rush any products based on its Zen 4 microarchitecture to the market late in 2021 (and even in early 2022). In fact, server-oriented Epyc 'Genoa' will be launched when AMD's partners are ready with their platforms for the new processor that uses an all-new platform architecture with DDR5 memory. 

The same applies to AMD's RDNA 2-based Radeon RX 6000-series graphics processors. In fact, since the company cannot really meet demand for its Radeon RX 6800/6900 GPUs and has not even formally launched its midrange and entry-level products powered by the same technology, it would barely make sense to introduce any new high-end offerings. Furthermore, just like its rival on the graphics front, AMD does not strive to introduce an all-new GPU architecture on a yearly cadence.  

But while Zen 4-based processors will be launched sometimes in 2022, AMD's executive implied that it has some new Ryzen 5000 offerings in the pipeline that will address market segments that AMD has not properly addressed yet, such as premium and commercial notebooks. 

"We have more platforms coming with our Ryzen 5000 in our next generation," said Su when asked about AMD's performance in the PC space should demand for computers slow down. "We are still underrepresented across the board in the markets that we play in, whether you are talking about datacenter or PCs, or gaming. On the PC side […] we are making very good progress in commercial, premium gaming notebooks, premium consumer [laptops]." 

AMD's CEO did not elaborate on how the company plans to improve its next-generation Ryzen 5000-series APUs and CPUs. A frequency hike is one of the options for mainstream processors. For the high-end market segment AMD plans to introduce CPUs with 3D V-cache it showcased earlier this year

  • g-unit1111
    Figures they'd announce the day after I buy a 5600X, LOL.
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  • Phaaze88
    So we're going to have a repeat of those XT chips?
    Oh dear...
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  • Heat_Fan89
    g-unit1111 said:
    Figures they'd announce the day after I buy a 5600X, LOL.
    That's a sweet spot gaming processor congrats, it'll last you awhile. I bought an Alienware Aurora R10 with a Ryzen 3800X and the 3800X is plenty fast in 1080P, so I can sympathize. Now is the time to hold off on Rocket Lake and Ryzen Zen 3 CPU's. Getting closer to the next generation. IIRC, the Zen 4 will require the AM5 socket. Did I read that correctly?
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  • TechLurker
    Been planning to buy a top-end AM4 CPU to round out my long-term build, but I think I can wait a bit longer if they're going to refresh the 5000 series with either XT variants with the extra cache, or possibly a 6000 series that simply have extra cache and minor tweaks to the 5000 series (as a result of improved yields/nodes). I'm privately hoping for it to just be a minor quarter-step up into a Ryzen 6000 series, if only to lock it into step with their GPUs.
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  • hotaru.hino
    Heat_Fan89 said:
    IIRC, the Zen 4 will require the AM5 socket. Did I read that correctly?
    Considering Socket AM4 is EOL, yes.
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  • JoBalz
    g-unit1111 said:
    Figures they'd announce the day after I buy a 5600X, LOL.

    Agreed. I updated to 5600X about a month back. There always seems to be a new release with 1-2 months of updating! In technology, like with new cars, you only get to enjoy the new CPU(car) "smell" for just a short time before it becomes last year's model.
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  • vern72
    AMD's CEO did not elaborate on how the company plans to improve its next-generation Ryzen 5000-series APUs and CPUs. A frequency hike is one of the options for mainstream processors.

    That's an easy one for me: PCIe 4.0!
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  • g-unit1111
    JoBalz said:
    Agreed. I updated to 5600X about a month back. There always seems to be a new release with 1-2 months of updating! In technology, like with new cars, you only get to enjoy the new CPU(car) "smell" for just a short time before it becomes last year's model.

    I've been building a long time and that always seems to be the case. I got my Ryzen 1st gen, they announce the second gen. I get the 3rd gen, they announce the 4th gen. I get the 4th gen they announce the 5th generation. LOL.
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  • ConfusedCounsel
    TechLurker said:
    Been planning to buy a top-end AM4 CPU to round out my long-term build, but I think I can wait a bit longer if they're going to refresh the 5000 series with either XT variants with the extra cache, or possibly a 6000 series that simply have extra cache and minor tweaks to the 5000 series (as a result of improved yields/nodes). I'm privately hoping for it to just be a minor quarter-step up into a Ryzen 6000 series, if only to lock it into step with their GPUs.
    The wait for a 6000 series might be a year or more. I would be surprised if they release Zen 4 any earlier than Q3 2022. So far, AMD has a significant lead on Intel in terms of efficiency and performance. Also, with the global chip shortage expecting to last until 2022, it would be wise for AMD to focus on securing production over adding products to already served markets.

    Upgrading the 5900x / 5950X with 3D cache wouldn't surprise me. The use case for those chips could benefit more from 3D cache than the gaming and daily computing uses of the 5600x / 5800X. (Now watch, Google will make Chrome more obtrusive just to prove me wrong.)

    As for frequency hike, that is just AMD doing the overclocking for me. But, @vern72 , I could see PCIE 4.0 support for APU being a definite draw. 3D Cache on APU to make up for real-estate loss to graphic cores would also be benefit.
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  • VforV
    Phaaze88 said:
    So we're going to have a repeat of those XT chips?
    Oh dear...
    So for you the 3D V-Cache bringing +15% perf = another XT chip?

    I wish those 3000 series XT chips had +15% perf instead of just +100Mhz on the clock...

    This will be their response to Alder Lake, not just some higher binned silicon.
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