CPU Benchmarks: PCMark And Sandra 2012
PCMark favors Intel hardware—perhaps unfairly. What puzzles us is that the A10-4600M seems to perform really close to (and sometimes better than) Intel’s Core i5-2450 in all of the individual metrics, and yet the aggregate score is much lower.
The Core i5-2450M takes a huge lead in Sandra’s Arithmetic module, and iSSE4.2 extensions don’t even help the A10-4600M all that much. The A8-3500M is far behind the competition.
Bear in mind that we don’t draw conclusions based on diagnostic tests like Sandra. Of course, we’re interested in evaluating potential performance. But our real-world results are what we use to make recommendations.
The addition of FMA3 isn’t enough to push the A10-4600M past Intel’s Core i5-2450M.
The Sandra Cryptography result is surprisingly close, likely a result of AES-NI support on both the Trinity- and Sandy Bridge-based parts. The A8-3500M isn’t in the running.
AMD’s Trinity design shows off in Sandra’s GPGPU/GPCPU Cryptography benchmark, beating out Llano and embarrassing Sandy Bridge. Both APUs benefit from native OpenCL support enabled through AMD’s driver. Sandy Bridge, meanwhile, can only emulate support on its x86 processing cores.
Sandra’s memory bandwidth result seems low for Trinity and Llano, though we’ve seen this diagnostic report back inaccurate results, particularly on just-released hardware.
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Hope its only the beginning of much moreReply
Recently Charlie at semiaccurate (a massive amd fanboy) hinting an upcoming apple products, then I saw an article in thg that tells an upcoming mbp will using retina display... 15 inch retina will require huge gpu horsepower, my wild guess is mbp will use trinity as it's CPU.Reply
Based on this, gaming is much better than old i5, but everything else including application performance is still better on the old Sandy architecture. I'm not really sure why I would buy a Trinity other than for a casual gaming laptop. Unfortunately, budget says that my laptops have to be used for business first, play time later.Reply
Nice to see that Trinity and AMD have delivered the goods. I want a Trinity powered Ultrathin. Intel can stick their crap where the Sun don't shine.Reply
BTW, Charlie @ SemiAccurate is not an AMD fanbois IME. He just calls it like it is. Reality bites sometimes be it Nvidia, AMD or Intel's problems. Denial never changes reality. It is what it is.
duckwithnukesWhere is the Intel HD 4000 vs. AMD Trinity comparison? Lazy reviewing at its finest.Reply
A10-4600M laptops will be int eh $600-$700 neighborhood, and we're still waiting for Ivy bridge Core i5 to arrive in this price range.
We go over this. We also talk about how we'll do a follow up as soon as an appropriate product is available.
You need to read for it to make sense.
FlippyFlap, Apple doesn't use AMD and an HD4000 can power a retina display. I'm sure Apple has worked with Intel engineers to get the drivers right for retina displays which is HD4000's problem. HD4000 is still lacking in terms of driver support (one can see that from the OpenCL benches around the net where only 1/2 get acclerated on HD4000). When the drivers work right, there isn't much difference between Ivy and Trinity.Reply
I agree with Cleeve and I personally hate comparing a reference system to a selling system anyway. Review 2 actual selling systems with similar parts and that gives you the benchmark.Reply
This looks like a very nice effort from AMD. I really, really need to replace my notebook. It's a six year old Toshiba Satelite with an AMD 1.9 GHz Turion 64 X2 with intergrated X2100 graphics.... yeah. Ancient now, I know. I've been trying to figure out a sweet spot in power since my needs are kind of complex. Typically I don't need it to do much more than handle MSOffice and web surfing. But I also tend to use it for video gaming when am interesting game comes around and some work in PaintShop when I'm out of the house, or don't feel like sitting at my desktop. This may be a little closer to what I'd like. It would be nice to get a notebook that combines this with a really good discrete card (sort of like how some MacBook Pros have their dual graphics setup). Nevertheless, Trinity looks to be just about enough power and performance, but the question is price. If tradition holds, it should be a good price competitor with Intel, which is the most important part, otherwise I'd just buy a core I7 already.Reply
In a related question, does Trinity's details and specs lead to any conclusions about what Piledriver desktop processors will be like?
So this means that AMD can kick Intel's ass in the gpu department for the moment while AMD suffers greatly in the CPU portion of the apu battle. Didn't I said before that Intel is trying to make an (proprietary) Intel only PC with no third party strings attached? We all know that there is no competition in the CPU battle when it comes to Intel. Still, i would like to see that the morons of intel to drop the price of their hardware for once and for all and drop ridiculously low end hardware out of production.Reply
No WoW benchmarks this time? I was wondering if this might make a good laptop for WoW, but you guys failed me. :(Reply