AMD FirePro V8700: High-End Workstation Graphics
FirePro V8700 Hardware Details: DisplayPort Times Two
When it comes to hardware, only a few items differentiate this graphics card from the Radeon HD 4870 model that targets gamers. As we describe on the following page of this story, the biggest differences between the V8700 and the HD 4870 relate to the drivers.
In everyday use, the card's ventilation made a very positive impression. It's much quieter than earlier solutions of the same caliber from ATI.
The new DisplayPort graphics interface also appears to have captured ATI's fancy, which probably explains why the company decided to include two such ports on the V8700. We aren't sure we understand why, because so few monitors currently support this interface--the majority of high-end monitors use DVI, and you still run into an occasional VGA-only model even today. Here's a sampling of the monitors that support DisplayPort:
- HP DreamColor LP2480zx
- Dell UltraSharp 3008 WFP
- Eizo FlexScan S2432W-H
The V8700 warranty provides three years of coverage, including access to a dedicated technical support staff that specializes in workstation systems. Mainstream Radeon cards for gamers give nowhere near this level of protection.
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Tindytim Can we get some BIOS hacks for the next review of Workstation cards? Since 99% of the cards are just Desktop variants with the drivers being the difference, all that's Needed is a BIOS hack.Reply
I'd love to see how the real thing would stack up next to a card with different BIOS. -
bvanveelen Is that 1% difference in hardware enough to give these big differences? If the firepro drivers could somehow be applied to a HD4870 would it give similar performance?Reply -
curnel_D TindytimCan we get some BIOS hacks for the next review of Workstation cards? Since 99% of the cards are just Desktop variants with the drivers being the difference, all that's Needed is a BIOS hack.I'd love to see how the real thing would stack up next to a card with different BIOS.Ok, so basically, we'd have to get ahold of a fireGL bios, and hack it into a 3850. If there was an equivilant to a 3870, I'd do it myself.Reply
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Tindytim bvanveelenIs that 1% difference in hardware enough to give these big differences? If the firepro drivers could somehow be applied to a HD4870 would it give similar performance?That's what a BIOS hack will do. You change the BIOS of the 4870 card to that of it's workstation equivalent.Reply -
Antiphonal It's funny - my HD4870 is intentionally crippled in applications that I will not use so they can use a 5x price mark up for people who use those applications. /sighReply -
Tindytim curnel_dOk, so basically, we'd have to get ahold of a fireGL bios, and hack it into a 3850. If there was an equivilant to a 3870, I'd do it myself. Who's brave enough?Do a google search. It's been done before. Although I doubt this new card would yield any benefit over a 4870 with a BIOS hack, other than in some overclocking.Reply
I'd be more interested in the Nvidia card because then they at least add a little more VRAM. Hell, I'd love to see a Quadro card, with lots of VRAM, BIOS hacked to a Desktop variant to see how it would do at higher resolutions over the actual desktop variant. -
Harby AntiphonalIt's funny - my HD4870 is intentionally crippled in applications that I will not use so they can use a 5x price mark up for people who use those applications. /sighReply
You're clueless. The price premium is for the drivers themselves, not the hardware. No one crippled your gaming card. But no one optimized its drivers for workstation applications either. And these optimizations are not simple tweaks but massive and careful code to give you massive performance boost under very very specific applications.
You could go as far as saying that you're in essence buying an expensive piece of software as well and not just a graphics card. -
You should test the other way around also, how does workstation card perform in games? (Not possible maybe)Reply
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Harby vixenistheshitYou should test the other way around also, how does workstation card perform in games? (Not possible maybe)Reply
Of course its possible. But at best performance will be equal, I would assume a bit worse, depending on whether FirePro drivers include the specific game optimizations catalayst includes or not. -
krazyderek Drivers and 3yr support aside, I really really really really would have liked to see the top 4870 1gb consumer card thrown in just for a reference point. It would do wonders to help justify the price markup to my boss that signs the purchase order.Reply