AMD/ATI Accelerating GPU Flash Player 10.1 Too

Maybe one day, my Geforce 4 MX can do that too

For real this is going to make netbooks actually worth it. Flash performance has always been the part that I could not stand.

Lets hope Intel gets on board as well.

Why cant they do this entirely through stream. Why would I have to buy a direct x 11 card for this. My 4870 is still good enough, and I dont see Ati making a chipset for netbooks, so how does this really help anyone. So instead of maxing out a 65 watt part I can max out a 265 watt part. Im not an nvidia fanboy I have ati, but I just can't see where this is relevent.

Ati accelerated physics?

Now, that would be a nice treat!

Its called Havok.

They are doing it though DX11 well that's a bummer for those with ati cards that don't have that unless i mis understood

I thought flash was already accelerated by gfx cards? or was that only open gl?

I very much doubt that the 58x0 series of cards would be the only AMD GPUs to support flash acceleration.

After all the main focal point for this technology would be laptops and netbooks and those are as a general rule equipped with far less capable GPU solutions, though definitely enough to handle flash.

I'd wager the 58x0 were simply used for the demo as it's the first implementation and a way to show off new technology.

Does this mean that Flash 10.1 can waste even more power than before? Instead of using a very efficient C2D, let's use a GPU that uses 3x as much power.

Death to Flash.

Okay so I said the same thing as these guys but get 2 negatives. The article said diretx 11. All I am trying to say is how can nvidia do it on a mobile low watt 9400 (ion) that is not a diretx 11 gpu, but ati needs a 5870? Also why would I need flash acceleration for anything but a netbook or mobile device. Most laptops, and desktops can handle flash fine. The only time this becomes relevent is if ati released a mobile gpu like ion.

What GPU uses three times more power than a processor does? Most GPUs will use 225 watts (PCIe = 75w, 2x6pin 75w), and pairing a GPU that will require extra power connectors with even a duo-core won't get you the magical "3x power consumption". Both parts already consume electricity during idle, might as well put them to use.

I don't see what you're complaining about.

Hmm, sounds like a recipe for making the most universally playable games (flash) require specific hardware. Yay!!!

No, you're wrong. This doesn't mean that you will NEED a GPU to play flash games.
It means that IF you ALREADY have one, you can play flash games FASTER and BETTER, consuming LESS CPU RESOURCES, allowing you to MULTITASK BETTER.
I used caps selectively so you can get the core concept better.

wow, atom systems will be able to use flash without stuttering when paired with a 5870! that would be an uber system config! :|

ofcourse that would be a short-sighted remark. It would all make more sense when dx11 integrated graphics comes to under-powered platforms. until then, this would probably be academic.

"Both Adobe and AMD worked with the DirectX 11 API's compute shader and ATI Stream technology to accelerate Flash performance with the GPU."

i wonder why they didn't opt to use OpenCL instead so it would be more portable across OSs and actually run on more(older) hardware.

Dude we're not kids - no need to CAPITALIZE your STRONG POINTS! It's so damned annoying.

but it emphasizes when my BALLS are ITCHING like CRAZY because of that STUPID GIRL from the beach...

in all reality who didn't see this coming? I just hope that gpu support can be backwards compatible with older video cards if for no other reason then that older laptops can't handle full screen hulu and other flash apps. :-p

When people stop acting like kids, I will start treating them like adults.

You may not be a fanboy, but you are poorly informed. DirectX 11 (software) will include Compute Shaders for DX 10+ cards (hardware). DirectX 11 cards will be able to run CS 5.0, DX 10.1 cards will run CS 4.1, and DX 10 cards will run CS 4.0.

Also you are mistaken about power usage of these cards. When accelerating something like Flash using CS, the chips will probably run at a considerably lower power level than max. Probably near their idle wattage, which on the 5800 series is extremely low. The future lower end 5xxx cards should be even better. For the record, Nvidia cards are a lot more power hungry at any given performance level, currently.

GT300 is going to be very large, so it may also suck up a lot of power like its predecessor. I don't think GT300 will scale down quickly, so a redesign of the GT200 on a 40nm process might be a good idea for Nvidia, especially for the low-cost and low-power markets, and would complement GT300 well.

I don't get it! If you have 4870 then you should probably have powerful CPU to. Why do you need an acceleration then?

Why not? They could just disable n number of CUDA cores and you have a cheaper GPU. I bet they'll do it. With that 3 billion GPU they'll have a lot harvesting to do. You will definitely see a whole bunch of crippled cards by NVIDIA next year.

... and intel try to save x86... but with the time, the CPU will be just a powerful router... the heavy loads will be done with raw computing power, that is provided by GPU and maybe some other hardware inventions in the future...

Can't what for "Quake III Arena" level 3D graphics in my porn popups.

Everything just needs to use more gpu. Give my new radeon 5870 a work out.

Actually the_krasno,you are the one that is mistaken.

If the GPU acceleration lets you play Flash games "better and faster" and offloads resources from the CPU then more and more complex games will be created that for all intense purposes require acceleration to be playable.

Once you make a resource available, it is going to be used. As history in any computer game field has demonstrated over and over again, programmers will always attempt to wring every last drop of performance they can and often overshoot the current limits on hardware and reach for the next level that is yet to come.

Flash is already a resource heavy program, and with this there will surely be games developed that will bog down older systems without the hardware support.

It's also possible that some GPUs may receive driver updates for DirectX 11 compatibility. But of course planned obsolescence from hardware manufacturers will ensure that there's always something missing.

I have mixed feelings about this. I like the idea for some things, I have the hardware to pull it and some 3D flash does sound cool. At the same time it seems like there will be little support for this and in practice will be rarely seen, so it makes it hard to get all hyped up about it. Maybe this is a reaction to that 3D accelerated browser thing I think it was called WebGL.

Marcus still doesn't have a handle on English.

"Yesterday when Adobe announced its Flash Player 10.1 that'll be coming down the pipe"

That would be "pike" not "pipe."

Flash video's suck, and are not comparable to mp4/avi video's.

CMON INTEL! the GMA 950 sucks as a graphics adapter but it would be great if flash could us it SOMEWHAT so that my netbooks cpu doesnt get the shit kicked out of it when watching hulu videos

Yup, the only market I see is for atom/ion HTPC's for watching HULU and youtube fullscreen. Still that is a pretty good nich market.

if you have a system thats using a 5870 then you most likely have other high end parts which means you wont notice any improvement through hardware acceleration.

whats needed is for low end systems, eg single core 1.6GHz with a geforce 7300 or something else low end, these systems will not handle full screen flash unless adobe comes out with a flash player thats fully GPU accelerated.

Seriously, I just had to sign up to correct this! This is a real howler! The phrase is "all intents and purposes", as in "intentions and purposes", it has nothing to do with intensity. I can't believe I'm having to write this...