First Shots of AMD Llano, Socket FM1 in the Wild
That's the APU... not of the Kwik-E-Mart.
Earlier this week, we learned that AMD was shipping finished Llano APU products to its OEM partners. They're not moving out in retail boxed form yet, as OEMs get the first crack to make machines around them.
"When we say we are shipping production units of any part for the first time, the next question I inevitably get asked is how does AMD define 'production'?" wrote Phil Hughes, Senior PR Manager at AMD. "When we talk about production here at AMD, it refers to the units that will ultimately be in the systems that our OEM partners will ship to retailers or end-customers."
Hughes added that customers should expect to see product within the next few months.
These quad-core parts are AMD's answer to the more performance-oriented desktop crowd, and it seems that at least one person out there managed to get their hands on an engineering sample.
The pictures you see here were found on a Chinese site. For those who were wondering what kind of socket that Llano would use, it appears that it'll be FM1.
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So these are the next generation I'm assuming. Cool.
AMD FTW.
Aww. Too late. I bought a Core i5 2500k. Now I'm sad.
What in the world is an FM1 socket?
What happened to the AM3/3+ standard sockets?
How could this be the for the " Performance Oriented Croud" when it is 2.4 GHz? That better be good archetecture or Amd is again, going to be creamed by the Intel lineup.
they're STILL using pins? really? Slowly i'm beginning to wonder if product designers have brains...
What in the world is an FM1 socket?What happened to the AM3/3+ standard sockets?
It is strange, but I thought llano was for laptops, not desktops. Maybe I was wrong.
How could this be the for the " Performance Oriented Croud" when it is 2.4 GHz? That better be good archetecture or Amd is again, going to be creamed by the Intel lineup.
Apparently it's an engineering sample, and generally those are void of the real clock speeds and TDP of the real production chips that the consumer market sees.
How could this be the for the " Performance Oriented Croud" when it is 2.4 GHz? That better be good archetecture or Amd is again, going to be creamed by the Intel lineup.
I also thought llano was going in laptops, if it is then a quad core cpu with a intergrated gpu / FPU (whatever it is lold) at 2.4Ghz sounds like it is for the performance oriented croud.
How could this be the for the " Performance Oriented Croud" when it is 2.4 GHz? That better be good archetecture or Amd is again, going to be creamed by the Intel lineup.
2.4ghz at 0.394v is quite an achievement though, especially for laptops. I'm sure my PhenomII x4 B55 needs somewhere around 1.3v-1.6v for that speed and will probably be slower clock for clock.
I don't think the new APUs will really take the performance gap unless they can be highly overclocked like Sandy Bridge.
Holy shit you people are downright retarded. Llano APUs are for laptops.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] ments.html
Looks to me like they will be for desktops too, so who's retarded now?
Holy *** you people are downright retarded. Llano APUs are for laptops.
Did you visit the wiki?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion
The following are desktop models:
E2-3250, A4-3350, A4-3360, A6-3450, A6-3450P, A6-3460, A6-3460P, A6-3550, A8-3550P, A8-3560, A8-3560P
This is the moble model:
A8-3510MX
Not sure if the sample is the desktop or notebook version, but the notebook version seems to be released first while the photo looks like a desktop version.
2.4ghz at 0.394v is quite an achievement though, especially for laptops. I'm sure my PhenomII x4 B55 needs somewhere around 1.3v-1.6v for that speed and will probably be slower clock for clock.I don't think the new APUs will really take the performance gap unless they can be highly overclocked like Sandy Bridge.
Bear in mind these chips are on 32nm but w/ husky cores (rather than the new bulldozer cores), so that power consumption isn't too extraordinary and somewhat expected. Probably won't see CPU speed match sandy bridge, but in terms of power consumption it should be close and the fusion APU will probably double the sandy bridge HD3000 performance. Could make a great desktop chip for those who aren't powering 1080i monitors for gaming and it'll probably make a fantastic laptop chip
Wasn't it reported not too long ago that AMD would be dropping the 3D Now instruction set? Just surprised to still see that there.
Ah well... Firmly rooted in Socket AM3 for now. Won't sniff anything new til 2015... less something blows up.
it inly has 1024k cache? doesnt sound like a performance cpu.
That .36v figure doesn't sound right. I'm guessing that CPU-Z just isn't correctly detecting the actual voltage, although if I'm wrong and .36v @ 2.4GHz is correct, then that would be quite impressive.
Wasn't it reported not too long ago that AMD would be dropping the 3D Now instruction set? Just surprised to still see that there. Ah well... Firmly rooted in Socket AM3 for now. Won't sniff anything new til 2015... less something blows up.
It's not a new CPU core, just a dieshrink. The integrated GPU and the pricing are where this thing will shine. Keep in mind, these chips are for entry level machines. They've got plenty of CPU power for your typical user, and a much better IGP than previous entry level units. Better even than the GPU in Sandy Bridge, with better driver support to boot.
it inly has 1024k cache? doesnt sound like a performance cpu.
It's not. Not big on reading, huh?
Something about these screenshots doesnt seem right... 3DNow support, a transistor that works at 0.39 volts, 'FM1' in IE is on top of the 'Status' bar...
Smells like seafood
These APUs should fit perfectly for building a budget desktop PC.
Oh so excited now, I'm in the market for a new Laptop but I guess it'll be a while until these come out.
A month more to go...
Wasn't it reported not too long ago that AMD would be dropping the 3D Now instruction set? Just surprised to still see that there. Ah well... Firmly rooted in Socket AM3 for now. Won't sniff anything new til 2015... less something blows up.
How is that not too extraordinary? Even if it is still the K10.5 core they got it to 0.394v from 1.3-1.6v in one fab jump.
The llano cores are just revised/updated Phenom II cores that are shrunken down to 32nm size. And the APU's in llano are going to be way faster than Sandybridge. The low power consumption AMD Ontario 40nm cpus feature an 8 watt APU and it is faster than Sandybridges APU. That is a pretty crappy APU in Sandybridege when it gets beet out by a budget low power Ontario APU.
If you want to see Llano HD6550 IGP, search for HD5570 reviews, 3-4x SB/Zacate IGP.
The only bottleneck of the HD6550 should be bandwith, 64bit DDR3 1866.
http://www.madboxpc.com/wp-content [...] 00x190.png
Many uninformed readers here it seems.
Llano is a Phenom II dieshrink without the L3 cache(basically Athlon II).
This will be for the high end laptops/low end desktops.
This will be their "APU", with(most likely) a weaker processor than Sandy Bridge, but a stronger GPU for acceleration.
The jump in voltage is mostly from a lower clockspeed, it seems people are mistaking that Phenom II's in the desktop are at 3.4ghz+@1.3V or so.
a 1ghz drop in clock will allow them to drop the voltage quite a bit, then the die being made at 32nm would lower it some more.
It may be nice to see a laptop based on Llano, but as far as a desktop I just don't care. Give me Bulldozer.
Yup, only care about a Bulldozer processor for desktop. Still it would be nice if they added a socket in Laptops so I can easily swap out a processor.
The Llano is for both the desktop and laptop platforms. This particular Llano sample is for the desktop.
it inly has 1024k cache? doesnt sound like a performance cpu.
The 1MB of L2 cache is for each core, so this Llano APU will have 4MB of cache.
2.4ghz at .396v?
I'd say that's pretty good.
So if this is an engineering sample, and not representative of the actual product specs, it still makes me wonder.
Can you underclock your quad core to 2.4 @ .396v?
Didn't think so.
How could this be the for the " Performance Oriented Croud" when it is 2.4 GHz? That better be good archetecture or Amd is again, going to be creamed by the Intel lineup.
These are for Notebooks, the Desktop variants will be Socket AM3+