Q3 Graphics Shipments Up 16.7% Over Last Quarter
The graphics chip industry had a much more upbeat Q3 than the disappointing first two quarters in the year.
Jon Peddie Research (JPR) estimates that 138.5 million graphics chips were shipped, up 21.5 million from Q3 2010. The year-over-year growth of 16.7 percent was above the 10-year average of 13.9 percent.
The clear winner of the quarter was Intel with a market share of 60.4 percent, up from 54.8 percent in the last quarter. AMD was down from 34.4 percent to 23.0 percent and Nvidia retreated from 20.1 percent to 16.1 percent. Nvidia's drop was largely due to the company's decision to remove itself from the integrated graphics market. JPR noted that Nvidia's discrete graphics chip share was up 30 percent from Q2.
The trend toward multiple GPUs in a single PC is clearly helping the graphics industry. Intel and AMD are driving this trend with embedded processor graphics CPUs (EPGs). According to JPR there were, on average, 1.15 GPUs in PC back in 2001, but there are 1.6 GPUs in every PC today.
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its cus of battlefield 3
its cus of battlefield 3
+1
... and they say no money in PC gaming...
add me in there soon, 7000 series bought because of battlefield 3
i'd expect bf3 to boost dgfx sales. but right now igp is where the money is. amd profitted from llano and bobcat, intel did with sb. unless nvidia gets an arm cpu with nvidia's own igp they'll keep falling behind intel and amd in this field.
amd's upcoming trinity, bobcat-t, intel's ivy bridge only move themselves further ahead of nvidia.
doesn't it make you feel a bit bad seeing intel taking lead in gfx market? intel doesn't even care much about graphics. their drivers suck worse than amd's.
imo nvidia is in a better position to challenge intel than amd is. they can build a 64 bit arm cpu, combo that with a gts 450 or gt 430 class gpu or lower end gt 240 gpu manufactured by tsmc. i know they will release quadcore tegra cpu which iirc is for tablets and smartphones.
mmm 1.6 GPUs..where can I find that .6?
i'd expect bf3 to boost dgfx sales. but right now igp is where the money is. amd profitted from llano and bobcat, intel did with sb. unless nvidia gets an arm cpu with nvidia's own igp they'll keep falling behind intel and amd in this field.amd's upcoming trinity, bobcat-t, intel's ivy bridge only move themselves further ahead of nvidia. doesn't it make you feel a bit bad seeing intel taking lead in gfx market? intel doesn't even care much about graphics. their drivers suck worse than amd's.imo nvidia is in a better position to challenge intel than amd is. they can build a 64 bit arm cpu, combo that with a gts 450 or gt 430 class gpu or lower end gt 240 gpu manufactured by tsmc. i know they will release quadcore tegra cpu which iirc is for tablets and smartphones.
I think that Nvidia is in better position to attack AMD in IGP field if they would join with Intel in that effort. Chip-set for SB and IB with IGP that could work in some kind of SLI with CPU's GPU have potential to kill 56xx and 66xx and lower level GPUs from AMD, and maybe even compete with 57xx and 67xx series.
mmm 1.6 GPUs..where can I find that .6?
On average in 10 PCs you have 10 discrete GPUs and 6 integrated, but that doesn't mean that 6 PCs have both discrete and integrated. Some have only integrated GPU, some have 4 discrete GPUs and integrated if you count dual GPU cards, rest have any combination in between (1+0, 1+1, 2+0, 2+1, 3+0, 3+1, 4+0).
Intel is only leading is GFX sales because they have a craptastic IGP in Sandy Bridge. I can only imagine that business, POS, medical, would use Intels IGP. My guess is that AMD is still #1 in graphics chips being USED.
Make good games/software for the pc,that pushes the hardware and people will upgrade!
Well, Intel also has open source drivers straight from Intel themselves while Nvidia and AMD have the "nouveau" and "radeon" community-driven open source drivers - which while they are great for older cards, are really really crappy for new ones (at least for a while, until they get proper support).
Make good games/software for the pc,that pushes the hardware and people will upgrade!
No. Because if they don't scale it to run on lesser hardware it won't sell and they won't recoup their investment. If they made an awesome game tomorrow that only worked on "GTX 590 3GB DDR5 2x 384-bit" and "HD 6990 4GB DDR5 2x 256-bit", very very (VERY) few people will upgrade, simply because most people don't have that kind of money to spend of a fricken graphics card when you could buy 2 decent PCs with that amount.
+1... and they say no money in PC gaming...
I built my first PC ever just because of Battlefield 3. So long consoles.
The clear winner of the quarter was Intel with a market share of 60.4 percent, up from 54.8 percent in the last quarter. AMD was down from 34.4 percent to 23.0 percent and Nvidia retreated from 20.1 percent to 16.1 percent.
54.8 + 34.4 + 20.1 = 109.3
Huh?
54.8+16.1+20.1
60 23 16
Wanted to skip current gen and buy next gen but because of BF3 bought GTX570 and _still_ planning to buy the next gen.
Wanted to skip current gen and buy next gen but because of BF3 bought GTX570 and _still_ planning to buy the next gen.
I think that Nvidia is in better position to attack AMD in IGP field if they would join with Intel in that effort. Chip-set for SB and IB with IGP that could work in some kind of SLI with CPU's GPU have potential to kill 56xx and 66xx and lower level GPUs from AMD, and maybe even compete with 57xx and 67xx series.
iirc nvidia and intel had a disagreement concerning nvidia making chipset for intel processors. the result was nvidia's exit from chipset market. i doubt nvidia and intel will join forces against amd who is in pretty deep !@#$ right now(compared to intel and nvidia). afaik nvidia has had success with arm socs - they can leverage that against both amd and intel. intel's success with sandy bridge is all the more reason to use their own igp instead of nvidia's.
I have a gtx 460 waiting for the 7000.
AMD may not be as good in the CPU market, but one market they do good in (for the most part) is the GPU market.
It also raises the question, how many new PC's were built from parts that don't show up in statistics? IMO each new MB that gets sold should count as a new PC or close to it...
bah, I'm a sucker, bought a 6990 for bf3 and other future games. Thing that sucks is, bf3 doesn't even work.
AMD may not be as good in the CPU market, but one market they do good in (for the most part) is the GPU market.
Yes, as their shipment share went from 34% to 24%
Something tells me that SB IGPs are included here but not Llano...
i'd expect bf3 to boost dgfx sales. but right now igp is where the money is. amd profitted from llano and bobcat, intel did with sb. unless nvidia gets an arm cpu with nvidia's own igp they'll keep falling behind intel and amd in this field.amd's upcoming trinity, bobcat-t, intel's ivy bridge only move themselves further ahead of nvidia. doesn't it make you feel a bit bad seeing intel taking lead in gfx market? intel doesn't even care much about graphics. their drivers suck worse than amd's.imo nvidia is in a better position to challenge intel than amd is. they can build a 64 bit arm cpu, combo that with a gts 450 or gt 430 class gpu or lower end gt 240 gpu manufactured by tsmc. i know they will release quadcore tegra cpu which iirc is for tablets and smartphones.
Not sure about Battlefield 3 boosting dual graphics card sales. I can run it quite fine on my Radeon 6870 and it should run quite well with other higher end cards. The only reason why I would think you would go with dual graphics cards in my opinion is to do eyefinity and have 3-6 monitors connected to your graphics card(s) or with 3D video. Other than that if your monitor is @ 1920x1080 a 6850/6850 or even a 5(6)770 would be plenty enough.
Nvidia and Arm are a powerful combo but when most of the high end games are on the x86/64 platform I doubt that will challenge Intel and Amd's dominance in the market. Arm is not bad but it was meant for cellphones and tablets not high end gaming.
I like it now how the market is turning towards more balanced systems. With a decent Graphics Card along with a decent CPU, I really hate it how they sell a high end cpu with integrated or crappy discrete graphics.
This is also just my own opinion on why graphics card purchases went up, is probably because Hard Drive Prices skyrocketed to the price of a decent graphics card. So people deciding to get a new hard drive just end up getting a new graphics card. It's my opinion but I would pick a decent graphics card over storage space.
Yes, as their shipment share went from 34% to 24%
That is percentage of market share. AMD's GPU sales didn't decline 30% it's just that all Intel's current CPU sales are also counting as GPU sales, since they integrate the GPU.
Those that buy only Intel integrated graphics don't care or don't know any better.
Those that buy only Intel integrated graphics don't care or don't know any better.
I have built 3 new machines using Intel HD Graphics now. It isn't for gaming. 1 HTPC which works great, supports all media content including 1080p for really cheap. 2 desktops for workstation use, also no need for a discrete card.
ahh bf3... how you made me spend $330 to upgrade my GPU to a 570.