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Warner Bros, Intel File DMCA Suit Over HDCP Crack Devices

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Warner Bros. and Intel subsidiary Digital Content Protection are suing Freedom USA and its CEO Alex Sonis for selling devices that circumvent HDCP.

Freedom USA is the parent company of AVA Direct and Antarespro.com. The plaintiffs filed a complaint alleging violation of the DMCA and are asking for an injunction that prevents Freedom USA from importing, manufacturing and offering HDCP circumvention products, as well as their seizure and impoundment, in addition to damages.

According to the lawsuit, the products currently being offered allow buyers to "engage in unauthorized [content] copying". Warner Bros. also alleges that its intellectual property is also vulnerable to unauthorized access, presumably because Freedom USA's products use the HDCP master key, which was cracked about two years ago.

The lawsuit specifically targets the "SIIG C-H20511-S1 HDMI toYPbPr/VGA & Audio Conv", "StarTech.com MNHD2VGAE VideoCable", "SABRENT HDMI TO VGACONVERTER HDMI INPUT", "SIIG CE-H21011-S1 - SIIG HDMI toVGA Converter with Audio Functions: Signal Conversion" and "CE LABS HDMI TO COMPOSITESCALER" that are offered via channels such as Ebay. The devices were previously available via large retailers such as Newegg as well, but have been removed from their websites recently.

 

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    InvalidError , December 22, 2012 2:20 AM
    Who rips BD movies through HDMI/VGA dump? Much more convenient to rip the BD media itself and strip the AACS protection there... much faster, cheaper, uses a lot less disk space and allows perfect binary copies.

    Sounds like studios barking up the wrong tree to me.
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    nukemaster , December 22, 2012 1:43 AM
    All those devices look more useful to let someone with an old analog(Composite/Component/VGA) set use a new bluray player/cable box.

    I know they may not know it, but movies are ripped from the disc not from a bluray player or cable box to one of these then tons of conversions/compression.

    This just hurts customers for no good reason.
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    sacre , December 22, 2012 1:57 AM
    /looks at DVD/CD/Blu-ray drive

    Oh s***! They're going to sue me next!

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    nukemaster , December 22, 2012 1:43 AM
    All those devices look more useful to let someone with an old analog(Composite/Component/VGA) set use a new bluray player/cable box.

    I know they may not know it, but movies are ripped from the disc not from a bluray player or cable box to one of these then tons of conversions/compression.

    This just hurts customers for no good reason.
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    wolley74 , December 22, 2012 1:47 AM
    better get rid of set top boxes and computers in general, maybe DVD / CD / Bluray drives need to go away as well, they all help it
  • 14 Hide
    sacre , December 22, 2012 1:57 AM
    /looks at DVD/CD/Blu-ray drive

    Oh s***! They're going to sue me next!

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    A Bad Day , December 22, 2012 2:15 AM
    I'm starting to question my ambitions as a material engineer...

    Hmm, maybe I can double up on copyright/patent law study AND material engineering. Who needs some damn cookies when you can earn stupidly large and stable amount of money.
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    InvalidError , December 22, 2012 2:20 AM
    Who rips BD movies through HDMI/VGA dump? Much more convenient to rip the BD media itself and strip the AACS protection there... much faster, cheaper, uses a lot less disk space and allows perfect binary copies.

    Sounds like studios barking up the wrong tree to me.
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    bit_user , December 22, 2012 2:40 AM
    InvalidErrorWho rips BD movies through HDMI/VGA dump?
    Because it works no matter what the source.

    InvalidErrorMuch more convenient to rip the BD media itself and strip the AACS protection there... much faster, cheaper, uses a lot less disk space and allows perfect binary copies.Sounds like studios barking up the wrong tree to me.
    But nobody has cracked the master key. And they're not going to, since Blu-ray uses real crypto. All the existing cracks have done is stolen some keys that new discs will stop supporting.
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    Pinhedd , December 22, 2012 2:41 AM
    nukemasterAll those devices look more useful to let someone with an old analog(Composite/Component/VGA) set use a new bluray player/cable box.I know they may not know it, but movies are ripped from the disc not from a bluray player or cable box to one of these then tons of conversions/compression.This just hurts customers for no good reason.


    Broadcast television and PayPerView also use HDCP
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    PreferLinux , December 22, 2012 4:58 AM
    I think a lot of people here are missing the fact that Blu-Ray isn't the only thing that uses HDCP...
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    memadmax , December 22, 2012 5:36 AM
    OOOOOOOOOHH....

    So thats why they are pushing BD so hard for >_>

    And here I thought it was for the marginal improvement of screen quality that I can barely notice ^.^ >_>
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    LordConrad , December 22, 2012 7:38 AM
    memadmaxOOOOOOOOOHH....So thats why they are pushing BD so hard for >_>And here I thought it was for the marginal improvement of screen quality that I can barely notice ^.^ >_>

    The difference in video quality between DVD and Blu-ray is quite pronounced, you either need to get glasses or dump your CRT television.
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    abbadon_34 , December 22, 2012 9:40 AM
    DRM was the only reason for HDMI, as we computer users know it's not necessary for high resolution video. I'm not throwing out thousands of dollars of hifi equipment just because someone wants me to use a new connector. Thankfully I grabbed a couple BD player when they still had component video and optical audio, and my receiver is old enough not to cripple my optical connection.
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    Blackjack Davy , December 22, 2012 11:05 AM
    bit_userBecause it works no matter what the source.But nobody has cracked the master key. And they're not going to, since Blu-ray uses real crypto. All the existing cracks have done is stolen some keys that new discs will stop supporting.


    Thats an idiotic comment if ever I heard one. Try doing some research first. Ever heard of AnyDvdHD? Or DvdFab? Or MakeMKV? Blu-ray encryption is thoroughly broken. The only thing thats not cracked is Cinavia since it uses an analogue sound wave that can't be removed from digital recordings at present. But its only a matter of time.
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    alidan , December 22, 2012 1:58 PM
    getrealGood. Anything that shuts pirates down is a good thing.

    you have any idea how stupid pirateing through that method would be?
    try recording an uncompressed 1080p signal for a minute, and look at how much space that takes up... i beleive it would be around 5-10gb. which you would than have to compress the hell out of, which would probably net you an over all worse coppy than just ripping the blu ray itself.

    that said, keep in mind there are MANY reasons to rip a dvd or a bluray

    personally i have a media server setup where i live, so every device can access the files simply and display them however i wish.

    this isnt stamping out piracy, because no pirate would do this anymore after the discs can be cracked and ripped.

    Blackjack DavyThats an idiotic comment if ever I heard one. Try doing some research first. Ever heard of AnyDvdHD? Or DvdFab? Or MakeMKV? Blu-ray encryption is thoroughly broken. The only thing thats not cracked is Cinavia since it uses an analogue sound wave that can't be removed from digital recordings at present. But its only a matter of time.


    ok, from what i read, its a sound that is inaudible. and doesnt ruin the movie.

    that would mean that its at a specific range that cant be heard, so logic would say chop off the high and low end on any media we know has it, and isolate it, find out its range, and remove it.

    if they were smart in its implementation, they have the firmware capable of storing multiple ok signals, so when one is cracked, another is used.

    if this is only used in theaters to prevent cams, i hope its never cracked, but if this is used in media for the pc, i could see a day where "this player is not supported, use the official player here for 99.95$" may be a reality, considering what studios do to theaters and force them to buy different projectors for different studios, i wouldnt count that reality out.

    in that case i hope it gets stripable soon.
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    nukemaster , December 22, 2012 3:16 PM
    Quote:
    Broadcast television and PayPerView also use HDCP

    Thus my post listed CABLE BOX(broadcast and PPV would fall into that no?)?

    Have you tried to compare the quality of cable/satellite to an actual BD disc? This is not what they tend to rip(others have stated, much more easy to rip the disc it self). If you want to rip tv shows, you can just do it over component anyway.
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    bobjmoran , December 22, 2012 4:16 PM
    Why are libraries not being sued for file sharing?
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    memadmax , December 22, 2012 5:43 PM
    LordConradThe difference in video quality between DVD and Blu-ray is quite pronounced, you either need to get glasses or dump your CRT television.


    Actually....
    I do need glasses....
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    pedro_mann , December 22, 2012 8:20 PM
    "SIIG C-H20511-S1 HDMI toYPbPr/VGA & Audio Conv", "StarTech.com MNHD2VGAE VideoCable", "SABRENT HDMI TO VGACONVERTER HDMI INPUT", "SIIG CE-H21011-S1 - SIIG HDMI toVGA Converter with Audio Functions: Signal Conversion" and "CE LABS HDMI TO COMPOSITESCALER" that are offered via channels such as Ebay.

    Thank you for the purchasing tips :)  I'll make sure to pick a couple up for Christmas while we still have the option to. BTW, these don't really have anything to do with piracy. For example, I have an old projector that has only a vga input, it is nice to be able to hook modern devices up to it.
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    jonjonjon , December 22, 2012 11:04 PM
    i don't even get why there is HDCP. its pretty obvious that HDCP only effects the honest customer. you see any pirates worried about their non HDCP monitor?
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    10hellfire01 , December 23, 2012 12:50 AM
    jonjonjoni don't even get why there is HDCP. its pretty obvious that HDCP only effects the honest customer. you see any pirates worried about their non HDCP monitor?



    That's what I was thinking. No idea why it still exists. Never hear about it doing anything actually. I never hear any complaints from pirates....any who use this route probably aren't too successful at it either due to the sizes as well.
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