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  • jimmysmitty
    A few years ago we had Sandy Bridge i5/i7s that hit 4.5GHz on air easily and 5GHz+ under water cooling. Not sure why this is being made a major deal when the TDP of these chips is 2x that of the upcoming i7 4970X and 3x that of a i7/i5 Haswell CPU.

    Still to each their own. I guess AMD has to find a way to be somewhat competitive until Steamroller comes out.
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  • vmem
    11177350 said:
    A few years ago we had Sandy Bridge i5/i7s that hit 4.5GHz on air easily and 5GHz+ under water cooling. Not sure why this is being made a major deal when the TDP of these chips is 2x that of the upcoming i7 4970X and 3x that of a i7/i5 Haswell CPU.

    Still to each their own. I guess AMD has to find a way to be somewhat competitive until Steamroller comes out.

    AMD learned how to do MARKETING. instead of actually making an innovative product, they've learned to take a seemingly boring product, and make it sound interesting while secretly spending more time to develop the better products.

    it's how Intel and Nvidia have beating AMD/ATI all these years. not every project under development will be useful, and if you don't market useless products and make money off of it, then your R&D costs go through the roof and your profits plummet. Just look at Desktop versions of Ivy bridge and Haswell, Intel took something that was optimized for Mobil, made a few tweaks, and then marketed it like hell. now they're making profits from BOTH mobil and Desktop markets for a product that was designed only for one of the two
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  • edwd2
    well, according to the reviews, this thing performs between a 4770k and 3930k stock. to be honest, i'd spend that $885 pn either a 8350 or 3930k. i'm pretty sure that at 5ghz, it doesnt have much oc potential
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  • falchard
    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    AMD has Hyper Transport. They kinda had it since 2003.
    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    This was never meant to be an integrated GPU chip, AMDs APU offers a much better GPU on chip.

    Still these things are a monster, a monster at gobbling up power. /nom
    I don't think anyone really cares about the power these things draw since these are just power hungry versions of their other offerings. This is just a stop-gap until AMD starts offering its Steamroller chips which are in the realm of competitiveness with Intel.
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  • Spooderman
    Everyone's always shitting on AMD but they do a good job with what they have. AMD has a tiny budget compared to Intel and they really do make the most out of it.
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  • Ovaltripod110
    you kids seem not to understand that while Intel functions on an economical cloned quad-core running 8 threads on 4 cores really slows things down, not only does the 1600MHz memory controller create a bottleneck but this also limits every pc user forcing them to upgrade their whole rig every time they decide to release a new chip. AMD's AM3+ sockest all support 1866MHz memory controllers and actual 1 core per thread for raw computing plus their chips never take a huge bite from the wallet
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  • mlopinto2k1
    11177903 said:
    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    AMD has Hyper Transport. They kinda had it since 2003.
    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    This was never meant to be an integrated GPU chip, AMDs APU offers a much better GPU on chip.

    Still these things are a monster, a monster at gobbling up power. /nom
    I don't think anyone really cares about the power these things draw since these are just power hungry versions of their other offerings. This is just a stop-gap until AMD starts offering its Steamroller chips which are in the realm of competitiveness with Intel.

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... he was talking about Hyper THREADING, not TRANSPORT.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperTransport
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  • mlopinto2k1
    11178639 said:
    you kids seem not to understand that while Intel functions on an economical cloned quad-core running 8 threads on 4 cores really slows things down, not only does the 1600MHz memory controller create a bottleneck but this also limits every pc user forcing them to upgrade their whole rig every time they decide to release a new chip. AMD's AM3+ sockest all support 1866MHz memory controllers and actual 1 core per thread for raw computing plus their chips never take a huge bite from the wallet

    This has to be satire. It just has to be. Right?
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  • alidan
    11177352 said:
    AMD won't learn-
    No HT still.
    No GPU still.
    And again that useless amount of l2 cache...Well i7 4770k is still the best deal out there..Well yet again, i7 3770k is better.

    is is threaded. they call it 8 cores, but its realistically 4, they just have more of a core than intels thread solution

    11178660 said:
    11178639 said:
    you kids seem not to understand that while Intel functions on an economical cloned quad-core running 8 threads on 4 cores really slows things down, not only does the 1600MHz memory controller create a bottleneck but this also limits every pc user forcing them to upgrade their whole rig every time they decide to release a new chip. AMD's AM3+ sockest all support 1866MHz memory controllers and actual 1 core per thread for raw computing plus their chips never take a huge bite from the wallet

    This has to be satire. It just has to be. Right?

    intel's implementation isn't that good and does have a bottleneck, is also more or less seems like intel required a new motherboard every cpu, while amd its usually just a bios update for a long time.

    the amd thread solution, if it went off without a hitch, would have easily beat the crap out of intel, but it wasn't properly integrated from the start, and many programs are still single core. when a program is made with amd in mind, you see that it can match and in some cases beat out i7's. with amd in every console, more specifically the two next gen ones, you will see a shift to support amd over intel or nvidia there, which may follow in other segments. and you also have a revamp of the bulldozer coming... remember the pentium 4, and how intel buried the threading till they fixed it? amd wasn't able to do that, they don't have the money to bury it and only bring it back out when done.
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  • stingstang
    11178706 said:
    11177352 said:
    AMD won't learn-
    No HT still.
    No GPU still.
    And again that useless amount of l2 cache...Well i7 4770k is still the best deal out there..Well yet again, i7 3770k is better.

    is is threaded. they call it 8 cores, but its realistically 4, they just have more of a core than intels thread solution

    You should look at the pictures of the amd chips and restate this.

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