PCI-SIG Releases PCIe 4.0 Specs

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  • bit_user
    In the best case, I think this could usher in a new era of multi-GPU gaming & VR. Especially if we see GPU performance start to plateau, like CPUs have.
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  • alextheblue
    20309398 said:
    In the best case, I think this could usher in a new era of multi-GPU gaming & VR. Especially if we see GPU performance start to plateau, like CPUs have.
    I honestly don't think that's very likely until we start bumping into silicon limits.

    For VR it might be not be too big of a mess at least for twin identical cards, one GPU per eye. Otherwise it's the same old story, poor software support, all-around fustercluck.
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  • Icepilot
    "We don't expect Intel to support PCIe 4.0 until mid-2019, and AMD has said it plans to add support in 2020."
    "All signs lead us to believe we will have PCIe 4.0 in the consumer space next year."

    Running on what?
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  • bit_user
    20309483 said:
    20309398 said:
    Especially if we see GPU performance start to plateau, like CPUs have.
    I honestly don't think that's very likely until we start bumping into silicon limits.
    Yeah, that's basically what I'm talking about. It's not just feature size that's a limiting factor, but also things like leakage that limit how much benefit you get from a node shrink.
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  • JonDol
    I hope that for your estimations (?) about its adoption are not true and that for once AMD will rather 'set the trend' than 'catch up'. I hope this too with the adoption of the USB 3.2 so that will help us to forget the proprietary Thunderbolt.
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  • mapesdhs
    Alas Jondol, hope is not a plan...
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  • samer.forums
    5 years for PCIe 3.0 and only 2 years between 4.0 and 5.0 ? Just skip the 4.0 altogether. Otherwise companies will never produce many cards on the 4.0 and will wait until 2019. 2 years is bad for R&D and companies wont waste money on them if the 5.0 is only 2 years after.

    Having said that , I am waiting for the PCIe 5.0 so much ... using x4 PCIe 5.0 instead of x16 slots will save TONS of space on motherboards .. and will allow full speed external PCIe GPU with ease using just 4 lanes.
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  • 10tacle
    So we go from 3 years -> 4 years -> 7 years -> 2 -> years between PCIe 1.0 to 5.0. PCI-SIG first announced 4.0 specs back in December 2011! Why the huge gap between 3.0 and 4.0? Is the Enterprise market (non-GPU devices specifically) getting in the way of things in demands?
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  • samer.forums
    20310828 said:
    So we go from 3 years -> 4 years -> 7 years -> 2 -> years between PCIe 1.0 to 5.0. PCI-SIG first announced 4.0 specs back in December 2011! Why the huge gap between 3.0 and 4.0? Is the Enterprise market (non-GPU devices specifically) getting in the way of things in demands?

    because we simply did not need that bandwidth increase... there are no GPU cards that can saturate x16 PCIe 3.0 lanes today , and no SSD as well ... unless you are talking about $100K cards...

    The M2 NVME SSD saturated the x4 PCIe 3.0 lanes ... so now we can make a use of Gen 4.0

    IMO
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  • 10tacle
    ^^Oh I understand that, especially for gaming. There are countless tests out there showing nearly zero improvement of x8 vs. x16 in gaming except in high end multi-GPU tests and extreme crazy non-realistic GPU setting like 4K in surround on low quality (https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=40772&width=800&height=800). My question was more for the professional development progress side of things (ie: Enterprise).
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