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Dell and HP Back Microsoft in Word Lawsuit

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Dell and HP are supporting Microsoft's effort to have the Word injunction overturned.

When Microsoft last week filed an emergency motion against the injunction that would prevent the company from selling Word in the United States, it cited irreparable harm and claimed it would never be able to recoup the funds expended in redesigning and redistributing Word. However the company also made another argument: think of our retail partners! Microsoft said that folks like HP, Best Buy and Dell would "face the imminent possibility of a massive disruption in their sales."

It seems as though HP and Dell are particularly worried as PC Mag reports that the latter has filed an amicus curiae brief asking the judge overseeing the case to reconsider.

Penned by Dell's lawyers and joined by HP, PC Mag cites the brief as saying the injunction would have an impact "far beyond Microsoft," and asked that the injunction be delayed by 120 days. While information considered confidential was left out of the public record (including the how the injunction would affect Dell) Dell did say that shipping a revised version of Word would mean changing Dell's images.

"Making such a change would require extensive time- and resource- consuming testing," Dell said according to the brief.

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    hennnry , August 28, 2009 11:16 PM
    Patent law in USA is screwed... period. It worked in my favor, but it is still screwed.

    Instead of encouraging discovery, advancing science, it serves to damage everyone except a selected few. Screwed, screwed, screwed.
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    salsoolo , August 28, 2009 11:37 PM
    ^thats the core problem of modern world.
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    Shadow703793 , August 28, 2009 11:50 PM
    hennnryPatent law in USA is screwed... period. It worked in my favor, but it is still screwed.Instead of encouraging discovery, advancing science, it serves to damage everyone except a selected few. Screwed, screwed, screwed.

    Agreed! +10000
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    hennnry , August 28, 2009 11:16 PM
    Patent law in USA is screwed... period. It worked in my favor, but it is still screwed.

    Instead of encouraging discovery, advancing science, it serves to damage everyone except a selected few. Screwed, screwed, screwed.
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    salsoolo , August 28, 2009 11:37 PM
    ^thats the core problem of modern world.
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    Shadow703793 , August 28, 2009 11:50 PM
    hennnryPatent law in USA is screwed... period. It worked in my favor, but it is still screwed.Instead of encouraging discovery, advancing science, it serves to damage everyone except a selected few. Screwed, screwed, screwed.

    Agreed! +10000
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    zerapio , August 29, 2009 1:02 AM
    Quote:
    (including the how the injunction would effect Dell)

    effect -> affect

    The injunction affects Dell therefore causing an effect.
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    the associate , August 29, 2009 2:25 AM
    That's right, i'm going to invest in a company who's sole purpose is to create programing techniques, technologies and so on, patent them, never make any use of these new innovations, and never let anyone else use them either.

    I'd estimate this stupid planet is at LEAST a few hundred years behind in scientific/technological/psychological evolution/progression because of garbaged brained mentalities such as this.

    end of rant -.-
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    LORD_ORION , August 29, 2009 2:49 AM
    So what, if you are a big corporation with deep pockets you are above the law? Even if you abuse the same scenario and laws in different situations when it's in you favor?

    Cough up the dough... injunctions are meant to force wrong doers into complaince.
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    r0x0r , August 29, 2009 3:27 AM
    the associateThat's right, i'm going to invest in a company who's sole purpose is to create programing techniques, technologies and so on, patent them, never make any use of these new innovations, and never let anyone else use them either.I'd estimate this stupid planet is at LEAST a few hundred years behind in scientific/technological/psychological evolution/progression because of garbaged brained mentalities such as this.end of rant -.-


    I often think to myself "If aliens were watching us right now, what would they think?" (I know; I probably think too much) :) 

    The only thing keeping us from being exterminated by aliens is that the human race is too pathetic to bother with lol :D 
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    geoffs , August 29, 2009 6:19 AM
    I called this one last Saturday. See "option 4" on my post on the following article.

    http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=16037
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    JohnnyLucky , August 29, 2009 8:58 AM
    As near as I can tell the U.S. patent process is completely screwy. You don't have to build anything or make anything to obtain a patent. The U.S. Patent Office issued a patent for a Star Trek type transporter even though the transporter does not exist. Hmmmm....I wonder if there might be one at Area 54.
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    belardo , August 29, 2009 9:06 AM
    Microsoft.... to big to fail.
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    Ryun , August 29, 2009 12:19 PM
    "Making such a change would require extensive time- and resource- consuming testing," Dell said.

    Cry me a friggin river. All you have to do is take the 60-day trial of microsoft office out of your OS image.
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    caskachan , August 29, 2009 12:38 PM
    AMERIKKKA!
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    wonged , August 29, 2009 1:41 PM
    Well, the problem here is really Mirosoft. They have been known to use other people's work and using it as if it was their own. In the academic world, this is called plagiarism. Wasn't there an article about Microsoft using OpenSource code in their Windows OS? The OpenSource folks didn't go after them. However, this time, they are on the end of a big stick.

    The American Dream can be based on these patent ideas. The American Dream is also to sue and counter sue. In some ways, it is about time that someone get Microsoft to think a little more before going into production with code created by other. Presently, there is a patent infringement, they have the money to fix it; they have over $40 billion sitting in cash. They can help the economy by deploying some of that! As for Dell and HP ... they should actually sue Microsoft for not living up to it's end of the partnership?? Start shipping OpenOffice as an alternative?
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    jaragon13 , August 29, 2009 4:11 PM
    wongedWell, the problem here is really Mirosoft. They have been known to use other people's work and using it as if it was their own. In the academic world, this is called plagiarism. Wasn't there an article about Microsoft using OpenSource code in their Windows OS? The OpenSource folks didn't go after them. However, this time, they are on the end of a big stick.The American Dream can be based on these patent ideas. The American Dream is also to sue and counter sue. In some ways, it is about time that someone get Microsoft to think a little more before going into production with code created by other. Presently, there is a patent infringement, they have the money to fix it; they have over $40 billion sitting in cash. They can help the economy by deploying some of that! As for Dell and HP ... they should actually sue Microsoft for not living up to it's end of the partnership?? Start shipping OpenOffice as an alternative?

    Open source formats? Uhh, I think there's Hundreds of open source formats but Microsoft gets picked on for using one that is open source. The developers forfeit profit when they make it open source. They should shove it.

    But what does Apple do? They basically stole BSD from the hands of the developers.
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    kentlowt , August 29, 2009 5:08 PM
    Ryun"Making such a change would require extensive time- and resource- consuming testing," Dell said.Cry me a friggin river. All you have to do is take the 60-day trial of microsoft office out of your OS image.

    Which means pulling all those image disks out destroying them putting together a new image and shipping out the new image. Then recalling all of the word software sold and replacing it with something else (in several months due to the programming and testing cycles) or refunding their money. Lots of destroying of dollars in what you suggest doing. In a time where margins are shrinking and sales are dropping it’s not a good thing to do to a company. Of course you don't have any responsibility to make any money for anyone so you can make those decisions
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    knutjb , August 29, 2009 5:48 PM
    Who really knows if MS stole the idea as many have suggested, or they developed it on their own around the same time and someone failed to recognize the code needed to be patented? Wouldn't be the first time a big company through it's shear size made a major mistake. Then again they might have. If so, they will, in the end, pay.

    Ford failed to re-up copyrights on the Cobra, GT40, and a few other names because a bean counter saw a place to shave a few pennies, oops.

    Go look at the chaos with the invention of the light bulb, is this the same here or otherwise? It only shows patent chaos isn't a new problem.

    Before hammering a stake through the heart...prove it, the legal matter isn't over. This is only an attempt by MS to keep selling this key product and the burden it places on downstream companies. I don't understand why the judge was so determined to stop the sale of Word. Was he so naive that he thought MS wouldn't appeal? I doubt it. The redesign of code and the number of product on the shelves is an unreasonable expensive for MS to correct on such short notice. This case has not come to a final determination, it is being appealed, therefore not final. If MS loses in the end the patent holder will still be paid, even on the product sold during the appeal period. MS isn't going to disappear. This part of the ruling appears to be arbitrary and vindictive.
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    sceen311 , August 29, 2009 6:03 PM
    I would think if you can't do your job with a certain amount of integrity and responsibility... you shouldn't be doing your job.

    Hey, wait a minute... wasn't Microsoft founded off stealing other peoples ideas and Making money off them? without giving credit where credit is due?
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    doomtomb , August 29, 2009 7:02 PM
    This is absolutely retarded. We got huge companies at stake here and American jobs all because some losers that had a patent 15 years ago. Why would they wait until Microsoft Word has been a stable for almost 15 years and then attack it. The patent system should ignore their lawsuit because the guys behind it are idiots and not in it for protection of "intellectual property" and are in it for Microsoft's $$$$.
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    tektek2000 , August 29, 2009 10:41 PM
    Although this is like ... "crap telling shit it dont stink"
    i gotta admit.. i think this is a bit overboard... with MS on this one.
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