Intel's Ivy Bridge CPU Prices to be Similar to Sandy Bridge
We get an early price listing for Intel's Ivy Bridge processors, and compared them to similar current generation Sandy Bridge processors.
We first got details on the specifications for Intel's Ivy Bridge processors in the early December. Today, we get an early price listing (based on 1K units) of the Ivy Bridge processors from CPU-World. Looking at the prices, the new Ivy Bridge processors will be at the same price points as the current generation Sandy Bridge processors that the upcoming platform is replacing.
Model | Cores (Threads) | Frequency | Turbo Frequency | L3 Cache | TDP | Price | Current CPU / Price | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Core i5-3450 | 4 (4) | 3.1 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 6 MB | 77 W | $184 | i5-2400 / $184 | |
Core i5-3450S | 4 (4) | 2.8 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 6 MB | 65 W | $184 | i5-2400S / $184 | |
Core i5-3470T | 2 (4) | 2.9 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 3 MB | 35 W | $184 | i5-2390T / $184 | |
Core i5-3550 | 4 (4) | 3.3 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 6 MB | 77 W | $205 | i5-2500 / $205 | |
Core i5-3550S | 4 (4) | 3.0 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 6 MB | 65 W | $205 | i5-2500S / $205 | |
Core i5-3750K | 4 (4) | 3.4 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 6 MB | 77 W | $225 | i5-2500K / $216 | |
Core i5-3750T | 4 (4) | 2.3 GHz | 3.3 GHz | 6 MB | 42 W | $205 | i5-2500T / $205 | |
Core i7-3770 | 4 (8) | 3.4 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 8 MB | 77 W | $294 | i7-2600 / $294 | |
Core i7-3770K | 4 (8) | 3.5 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 8 MB | 77 W | $332 | i7-2700K / $332 | |
Core i7-3770S | 4 (8) | 3.1 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 8 MB | 65 W | $294 | i7-2600S / $294 | |
Core i7-3770T | 4 (8) | 2.5 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 8 MB | 45 W | $294 | N/A | |
Based on the early performance seen with Ivy Bridge, the price point will make it an easier decision to make the jump to Ivy Bridge for a new build in April / May over current generation Sandy Bridge. What remains to be seen is whether or not Ivy Bridge performance will be enough for users to jump from a current gen Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge on a compatible motherboard.
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How is this different to Sandy bridge?
Look at those TDP's!
Insanely low.
Although.. Performance better be worth the price, because buying a new motherboard and CPU isn't cheap.
I don't think it's going to be such a huge performance increase over last gen as SB was. Intel doesn't even have to, since AMD is pretty much out of the game for at least a year.
I'll guess the main upgrade is the lower power consumption and better IGP. Ofc I expect a ~15% increase in CPU performance, but that's about it, with a lower TDP they're not going to increase performance much.
Hmm... succesor to the 2500K: i5-3750K looks like a sweet spot. Might just be upgrading to that from my old Phenom II 965.
I have my i7 2600 overclocked to 4.2ghz. I could push it further but don't want to kill it. No reason to upgrade for a marginal benefit.
Prices of today.....
How is this different to Sandy bridge?
I was also thinking that. Same architecture, same clock frequency ,whats new in it ? :S
I was also thinking that. Same architecture, same clock frequency ,whats new in it ? :S
die shrink
not surprising. They have no competition, so they come up with a way to make them cheaper, then sell them to us for the same price at the same speeds, and make more profit.
I bet we won't see a real boost in performance for the next 3-4 years now, just like back in the early P4 days.
Look at those TDP's!Insanely low. Although.. Performance better be worth the price, because buying a new motherboard and CPU isn't cheap.
New board not needed, P67 and Z68 support IB.
What I wonder is who the hell buys those "T" and "S" versions...
I don't think it's going to be such a huge performance increase over last gen as SB was. Intel doesn't even have to, since AMD is pretty much out of the game for at least a year.I'll guess the main upgrade is the lower power consumption and better IGP. Ofc I expect a ~15% increase in CPU performance, but that's about it, with a lower TDP they're not going to increase performance much.
Intel may not have to, but their road map was set years ago and there was no way to know that AMD would fall behind so far in the mid-high end market. If you have an SB based system then I would agree that it may well not be worth the expence of upgrading your system but for anyone else I think it will be a good choice. Just as long as you don't have to lash out on new HDD's that is...
I for one will be building a new rig based around the i5 3750k, now I'll sit back and see what happens with the GPU market...
Different fabrication process. Therefore smaller transistors, therefore slightly increased speed in transistor on/off switching, therefore slightly increased performance on CPU bench tests.
How is this different to Sandy bridge?
It has a different name...and don't forget the die shrink, so its basically the same thing, only a bit more effective
when will they release i3 3xxx?
The TPDs are too low. I want a 150W 6-core chip @ 5.5GHz
A pox on the house of Intel. These naming conventions need to be changed.
/Will be getting the i7-3770K.
I couldn't wait for Ivy and now it seems I can.
maybe Haswell will be the one top make me upgrade from an i5-760 @ 3.52GHz and SLi GTX 460 HAWKS.
I passed over SB and now it seems Ivy too.
reports say that in gaming only circumstances moving up from Nehalem is not worth it right now.
It's looking good! shaving off 20W while having a 5-10% expected performance increase on the processor, and nearly doubling the onboard GPU is nothing to snuff at. That is absolutely amazing. Plus the added PCIe3, possible Thunderbolt(though this will likely depend on the chipset), possibly native support for faster ram, possible WiDi, and more. Part of me is kinda sad that I could not wait for it to come before upgrading, but I'm still happy with my 2600.
For whoever asked what the T and S modles are for: these are for special nitche markets, like workstation laptops, or specific use applications like kiosk setups and other things where they have a constrained power budget, but still need features like added cores, a larger cache, or hyper-threading. Most people would not want/need one.
They should have had a different name scheme with SB-E to make things less confusing. SB-E should have stuck in the 2xxx range for processor numbers, and left the 3xxx for IB chips. Sure the SB-E will be faster, but the IB and later IB-E chips are rather a different monster.
Cant wait for official reviews!
Awesome chart and info, thanks Tom's!
My understanding is that the die shrink/lower TDP will potentially allow for greater overclocking headroom on the 'K' versions... with Sandy Bridge overclocking so well, it'll be interesting to see how much horsepower the enthusiast crowd can crank out of Ivy
Low-power 'T' ?
Individuals, Companies buying < 10? Probably not.
Companies buying 100s, 1000s, 10,000s of units?
Very likely. 1000s of units X $/kwh = big 'T' savings!!!
Laptops, no. (You're probably plugging into someone elses power source)
Kiosks, maybe. (Depends on how you market/contract the sales. Mall managers may be very in-tune with kiosk power usages, but I understand getting good data on unit power usage is difficult if not impossible.)
100s or 1000s of In-house data clerks, you betcha!
(Think of Thousands of call-center reps; all those units burning juice)
It has a different name...and don't forget the die shrink, so its basically the same thing, only a bit more effective
Also has trigate transistors
not surprising. They have no competition, so they come up with a way to make them cheaper, then sell them to us for the same price at the same speeds, and make more profit. I bet we won't see a real boost in performance for the next 3-4 years now, just like back in the early P4 days.
Wrong, haswell will be out next year, is there something wrong with making more profit? This is their schedule they have had for years, tick-tock.
How is this different to Sandy bridge?
It is very similar but Intel is making some changes. Other than the die shrink using Tri-gate transistors the major points are
DDR3-1600 support(up from Sandy Bridge DDR3-1333), PCI Express 3.0 support, and Intel HD Graphics with DirectX 11, OpenGL 3.1, and OpenCL 1.1 support. They also beefed up the GPU which "should" be great for transcoding and for those that don't play games
The PCIE 3.0 update it just future proofing more than anything but it might be pretty cool when PCIE based SSD drives make use of the full speed. The Directx 11 update just brings up the minimum level (finally) for all new PC's.
I noticed a lot of comments on here that there isn't much of a performance boost. i agree with that to some degree. However, I think Intel is doing the right thing for the current industry trend of continually shrinking the form factor of computers. Especially with Windows 8 coming out around the same time as this new CPU. We will see more tablets, touch screen all-in-one desktops, HTPC, etc... INTEL is no longer just competing against AMD and has to be ready for the upcoming fight with ARM processors. Reducing TDP will make these CPUs a more viable option for the shrinking form factor. On the flip side, desktops will only get a little extra room for overclocking. Perhaps Intel will include some other goodies with IB, such as Quick Sync across the board and other new features added directly to the CPU?
How is this different to Sandy bridge?
- Lower wattage (I'd guess better overclocking)
- Slightly faster per gigahertz
- PCI-e 3.0
- USB 3.0 integrated
- Thunderbolt support
- Die shrink
- Faster integrated graphics
- More dynamic overclocking features (more overclocking ability without needing to reboot)
I may wait for this to replace my aging Core 2 Quad Q8300 and Radeon HD 4850. Since I am also waiting for the Radeon HD 7870 or 7950. Though since those are due soon I may jump the gun and get a Sandy Bridge CPU.
Though those additional features may be nice to have they are not that important to me. The only thing I care about is the 77W TDP. Lower CPU wattage means lower fan speeds and a quieter computer.
45W TDP for a 2.5GHz 4C/8T CPU is simply astounding. very mouthwatering the specs are. of course for people who already own sandy bridge CPUs, this may not entice them enough
I noticed a lot of comments on here that there isn't much of a performance boost. i agree with that to some degree. However, I think Intel is doing the right thing for the current industry trend of continually shrinking the form factor of computers. Especially with Windows 8 coming out around the same time as this new CPU. We will see more tablets, touch screen all-in-one desktops, HTPC, etc... INTEL is no longer just competing against AMD and has to be ready for the upcoming fight with ARM processors. Reducing TDP will make these CPUs a more viable option for the shrinking form factor. On the flip side, desktops will only get a little extra room for overclocking. Perhaps Intel will include some other goodies with IB, such as Quick Sync across the board and other new features added directly to the CPU?
The onboard GPU is wasted die space IMO.
How is it different to Sandy Bridge?
Intel documents have it as 10% to 25% faster in CPU performance and up to 300% faster in graphics performance. I have no idea why people aren't excited about that in a "tock" year. That is HUGE! It consumes much less power, supports USB & PCI-E in the 3.0 versions. My only complaint is that the new motherboards don't have LightPeak beyond custom solutions from Sony, Apple, etc. It seems there is always something missing making you want to wait for the next iteration ;-).
I'm afraid if anyone was wanting a lot more than this will have to wait for Haswell. They actually worry about what the CPU does in that iteration. That CPU will have the performance inputs necessary to take you into 2015. This is just a holdover until they get to that one. This chip is what SB should have been as with most "tocks".
Why not make things more simple and name them 3500k, 3700k, etc.
Hopefully this drive down the prices of i7-2600K/2700Ks on the forums. I'd love to gain 4 threads