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IBM Builds 10 PFlops Supercomputer

by - source: IBM

IBM will be building a 750,000 core supercomputer for the DOE's Argonne National Library.

Called Mira, the system is expected to deliver a maximum performance of about 10 PFlop/s which is about twice as fast as today's fastest supercomputer on the Top 500 list.

The new system will be built on IBM's BlueGene/Q technology and be capable of running about 10 quadrillion calculations per second, which is about 20 times the performance of Argonne's current Intrepid supercomputer. According to IBM, Mire will be able to do about the same number of calculations every second as every man, woman and child in the U.S. could do in one year if they were to do one calculation each second.

There was no information when Mira will be completed and there was no information how much this system will cost. However, IBM said that the supercomputer is a stepping stone on the path to an exascale supercomputer, which is expected to arrive in the 2020 time frame and will be at least 100 times faster than Mira. IBM said that such systems may be powered by "100s of millions of cores".     

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PIZZA Man 02/09/2011 2:28 AM
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Holy cow, can you imagine the possibilities this thing now opens? I can't wait to see what they do with this incomprehensible amount of processing power. But here's the big question: Can it run Crysis? ;)

Anonymous 02/09/2011 2:45 AM
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But can it run Windows ?

Bolbi 02/09/2011 2:55 AM
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I just hope that they don't waste all of that raw computing power and taxpayers' dollars using this thing for "climate research"!

thillntn 02/09/2011 3:04 AM
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is this cell based technology? another question would be"can it not get sued by $ony? :)

eklipz330 02/09/2011 3:05 AM
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Quote :According to IBM, Mire will be able to do about the same number of calculations every second as every man, woman and child in the U.S. could do in one year if they were to do one calculation each second.


but can it stop me from destroying it with a sledge hammer?

no? then we humans are safe =]

eklipz330 02/09/2011 3:08 AM
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also [sorry for double post]

365 days * 24 hours * 60mins * 60 seconds * 300,000,000 people =

9,460,800,000,000,000 calculations in one second

HansVonOhain 02/09/2011 3:13 AM
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Run a compatible Folding @ Home on that. That would be just incredible.

liveonc 02/09/2011 3:30 AM
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I can just picture every man, woman and child in the U.S. doing arithmetics. One calculation each second for a whole year! :-) If you force them to, the terrorist have finally won, & there is peace on Earth...

jprahman 02/09/2011 3:34 AM
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Just think about how much power that thing is going to use. If Chicago has a blackout around the same time they power that thing on we'll all know why.

warmon6 02/09/2011 3:50 AM
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HansVonOhain :
Run a compatible Folding @ Home on that. That would be just incredible.



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Wow. that would be double of what F@H doing right now (according to F@h stats, were running 5.2 native Petra flops or unless you want to count the x86 flops as 9.3 Petra Flops)

So if this thing were built tomorrow (which we know it wont) it could run the entire project with out our help. (in theroy)

Although by the time IBM finish building that thing, F@H will already be past the 10 pflop range.

PreferLinux 02/09/2011 3:56 AM
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asdfsdf :
But can it run Windows ?


Probably not!

Darkk 02/09/2011 4:05 AM
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What I don't understand that CPU processing power in math is actually outdated thanks to the raw power of GPUs so would make sense to use those instead.

jprahman 02/09/2011 4:17 AM
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True. The supercomputer the Chinese recently build featured large numbers of GPUs. A major advantage of GPUs is the GFLOP/watt ratio they boast. Take for instance the GTX 580, it consumes about 250W and runs at 1500 GFLOPs for a ratio of 6.3 GFLOPs per watt. A Core i7-2600 OTOH uses 95W and runs at 110 GFLOPs for a ratio of 1.5 GFLOPs per watt.

alidan 02/09/2011 4:37 AM
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to the crysis question, if everything was possible, this thing would have enough memory on the cpus alone, to install crysis there, and is probably able to execute everything in real time, like exploding 5000+ barrels.

dragonsqrrl 02/09/2011 4:39 AM
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jprahman :
Just think about how much power that thing is going to use. If Chicago has a blackout around the same time they power that thing on we'll all know why.


The Bluegene/Q achieves roughly 1.7 GFLOPS/W. Going by this metric a 10 PFLOPS system would consume roughly 5.9 MW, which isn't all that much by supercomputing standards especially considering Mire's peak theoretical performance.
thillntn :
is this cell based technology? another question would be"can it not get sued by $ony?


It's made up of 16-core quad-threaded PowerPC A2 based processors, each processor having 64 threads. So no, it isn't based on Cell, but even if it were, why would IBM get sued by Sony? The Cell architecture was developed and designed jointly by both companies, and IBM has already integrated it into many of its supercomputing designs.

alidan 02/09/2011 4:40 AM
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jprahman :
True. The supercomputer the Chinese recently build featured large numbers of GPUs. A major advantage of GPUs is the GFLOP/watt ratio they boast. Take for instance the GTX 580, it consumes about 250W and runs at 1500 GFLOPs for a ratio of 6.3 GFLOPs per watt. A Core i7-2600 OTOH uses 95W and runs at 110 GFLOPs for a ratio of 1.5 GFLOPs per watt.



correct me if im wrong, but aren't gpus ony really good at processing pre determined things faster?

i know there is one thing that makes a cpu a far better solution than a gpu, i just cant remember the thing.

jprahman 02/09/2011 5:05 AM
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Predetermined? Are you referring to code branching? Basically GPUs don't handle code which has lots of conditional code well, IF statements and SWITCH CASE statements severely degrade performance. CPUs on the other hand have branch prediction units and control flow heavy code isn't a huge issue.

warmon6 02/09/2011 5:07 AM
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jprahman :
True. The supercomputer the Chinese recently build featured large numbers of GPUs. A major advantage of GPUs is the GFLOP/watt ratio they boast. Take for instance the GTX 580, it consumes about 250W and runs at 1500 GFLOPs for a ratio of 6.3 GFLOPs per watt. A Core i7-2600 OTOH uses 95W and runs at 110 GFLOPs for a ratio of 1.5 GFLOPs per watt.


Darkk :
What I don't understand that CPU processing power in math is actually outdated thanks to the raw power of GPUs so would make sense to use those instead.



jprahman, you do know that the 95W TDP is how much watts of heat a cpu and/or a gpu will release and not how much it consumes ;)

Both the GTX 580 and the core i7's can consume more watts than there TDP's are. (not all the energy thats consumed by the hardware is lost as heat)

As for why there not doing a build of gpu's, you are right that gpu's are faster in flops but it's difficult to program for a gpu to run stuff and not all programs that need floating point calculations are that well suited for a gpu.

It also depends on energy usage and electical limitation as well. Yeah if a gpu can get stuff done faster, it could stop so it wouldn't use as much electricity..... Although how often do you here a super computer getting a break for completing a hard job? Rarely. So imagine all the cost of running that....

Now, there is one thing to re-look at of who making this supercomputer. It's IBM. So there going to be using something similar to the PS3 cell cpu they make or there servers powerXcell sever cpu that back in 2008 was already able to achive over 100 GFLOPS on eight SPEs.

Now whats different about the cpu's IBM has vs AMD/Intel? there cpu's are more like gpu's than cpu's but not fully gpu's. There like the hardware thats right in the middle of the 2. That at least according to the F@H programers that make and run the PS3 clients.

So what ever cpu be put in this, i going to have to guess that it will have higher than average cpu flops but lower than power usage than a GPU. This is if IBM makes a cpu with what the cell's have.

jprahman 02/09/2011 5:25 AM
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Sure CPUs and GPUs don't release all electricity as heat, but they do release a large part as heat.

Von Death 02/09/2011 5:42 AM
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This is what the Matrix OS is run on.

edmond419 02/09/2011 8:05 AM
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Stick the SETI@HOME on it, it'll be good for the analysis of radio signals!

Stick World of Warcraft on it on super high resolution, with the highest texture quality, and it will fly at more than 1000FPS.

Stick Windows 7 on it, and it can boot from off to usable desktop in less than 5 seconds from the press of the start button.

Stick it in China, and add to the problem of pollution.

Stick a super high speed internet connection of some 50gbps inbound and outbound and it can be a host for Youtube, allowing users to upload, and then when it processes user video it can take less than a few seconds!

edmond419 02/09/2011 8:07 AM
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I mean, power button, not start button

Pyroflea 02/09/2011 8:15 AM
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Fantastic, I'll take 5 please. I've got a basement they can reside in.

nebun 02/09/2011 9:56 AM
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Pyroflea :
Fantastic, I'll take 5 please. I've got a basement they can reside in.


is it your parent's basement? lol

eddieroolz 02/09/2011 10:55 AM
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We have reached a ridiculous amount of power! Quadrillion...

JOSHSKORN 02/09/2011 11:02 AM
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PIZZA Man :
But here's the big question: Can it run Crysis?


Maybe in compatibility mode. Maybe you'll have to underclock the thing by a million times just to get Crysis to work. LOL

darkchazz 02/09/2011 11:15 AM
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blibba 02/09/2011 11:37 AM
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warmon6 :
jprahman, you do know that the 95W TDP is how much watts of heat a cpu and/or a gpu will release and not how much it consumes Both the GTX 580 and the core i7's can consume more watts than there TDP's are. (not all the energy thats consumed by the hardware is lost as heat)



Not all, just 99.9%.

bobiseverywhere 02/09/2011 2:03 PM
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PIZZA Man :
Holy cow, can you imagine the possibilities this thing now opens? I can't wait to see what they do with this incomprehensible amount of processing power. But here's the big question: Can it run Crysis?



Skynet, Here we come.

powerbaselx 02/09/2011 3:05 PM
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Great news on High Performance Computing.
Despite any licencing violations, is it possible to install a Windows VM on Virtual Box on Linux for z/OS? :-)

powerbaselx 02/09/2011 3:08 PM
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Better: Windows VM on Virtual Box on Linux for zSeries on z/VM.


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