AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT vs. Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super: $400 GPU Throwdown

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Jarred Walton
Senior Editor

Jarred Walton is a senior editor at Tom's Hardware focusing on everything GPU. He has been working as a tech journalist since 2004, writing for AnandTech, Maximum PC, and PC Gamer. From the first S3 Virge '3D decelerators' to today's GPUs, Jarred keeps up with all the latest graphics trends and is the one to ask about game performance.

  • Darkbreeze
    has good driver and software support

    Really? And how exactly do you figure that to be accurate when AMD themselves admit they are still trying to iron out problems on Navi that have existed since day 1, 7 months later?

    https://www.techspot.com/news/84005-gamers-ditching-radeon-graphics-cards-over-driver-issues.html
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  • Makaveli
    Darkbreeze said:
    Really? And how exactly do you figure that to be accurate when AMD themselves admit they are still trying to iron out problems on Navi that have existed since day 1, 7 months later?

    https://www.techspot.com/news/84005-gamers-ditching-radeon-graphics-cards-over-driver-issues.html

    Not everyone is having issues.

    Even in that link Techspot themselves say they have rarely ran into any issues with any of the Navi radeon's they have.

    Not saying it doesn't happen just not everyone is affected.
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  • travsb1984
    Both these cards should have come out at $250 max and been down to $200 by now. The fact that they did not is why many will probably be migrating to the next gen console when it comes out. Whether AMD and Nvidia would keep prices sky high after the mining craze has been answered loud and clear. They could have gotten a couple hundred bucks out of me every year and a half or so. Now it looks like they'll get 150 of my bucks through Microsoft and that'll have to last them around 5 or 6 years... I think in the long run their greed will bite them in the butt.
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  • Darkbreeze
    It doesn't matter that not everyone is having issues. If SOME are having issues, it makes "good driver and software support" a lot less, believable. And you apparently didn't read the article well because they also clearly said that this is not limited to Navi, neither the problems, nor the poll, nor the driver issues were limited to Navi, but primarily many of the core issues, especially the black screens etc., are. Seriously, we just had one member who updated his drivers and ALL FOUR of his working AMD cards instantly began having problems. FOUR. Just from a driver update. Two days ago.

    Last year we noticed that batches of RX 580 cards were dying off right after some driver updates. So yeah, the fact that not everybody is affected does not forgive the fact that there is a problem.

    AMD themselves SAY there IS a problem, and that they are working on it. So how do you refute what they've said themselves? Not everybody had coil whine or was bothered by the GTX 970 3.5GB memory issues either, but they are/were STILL problems, regardless. Nobody would have said "The GTX 970 has terrific memory support" in light of the issues surrounding the architecture despite the fact that for most people it was a non-issue.
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  • mrface
    travsb1984 said:
    ...is why many will probably be migrating to the next gen console when it comes out....

    This dead horse is touted out after each architecture release and propped up with a price point that never comes to fruition. While I agree that greed is the reason (xCOIN mining market is long been reduced to niche enthusiasts and most people who still worry about crypto rely on trading coins rather than mining coins) they havent dropped the price and is ridiculous, however, people will not be moving in droves away from PC gaming when the next gens come out. Its just as preposterous as someone saying "PS5 will be $500+, PS gamers are going to be flocking to other consoles or PC." Neither is a good argument as humans are innately tribal when it comes to their wants and cost is rarely a factor if someone decides to make a change, mostly due to brand loyalty and change is due to a major event.
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  • mrface
    Darkbreeze said:
    It doesn't matter that not everyone is having issues. If SOME are having issues, it makes "good driver and software support" a lot less, believable.

    As mainly a ATi/Radeon/AMD plebe for years(since atleast the 7500 series, :X), I will say AMD is really lacking on the driver side of the house.
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  • Makaveli
    i've been using Radeon's since the Radeon 64 DDR

    And the drivers are alot better compared to back in the day. And for me personally I've not had many issues in the 20+ years i've been using ATI gpus.

    And as far as the article I read it before you posted it here as I'm a member on techspot.

    Not had a single issue on my RX580 which spent many years in my old x58 i7-970 build and now transfered to my Ryzen 3800x build.
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  • gallovfc
    Why they test 1080p Medium, and 1080p, 1440p and 4K only at Ultra I cannot understand...
    Why 1080p medium ?!? Why not 1440p and 4K medium???
    1080p Ultra is easy for these cards, 1440p medium could allow players to get high fps,
    But specially 4K medium (or high) would ALLOW these cards to RUN 4K, since they obviously CAN'T at 4K Ultra...
    So here's my request: for 1440p capable cards, forget about 1080p medium, add 1440p and 4K medium.
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  • Darkbreeze
    Makaveli said:
    i've been using Radeon's since the Radeon 64 DDR

    And the drivers are alot better compared to back in the day. And for me personally I've not had many issues in the 20+ years i've been using ATI gpus.

    And as far as the article I read it before you posted it here as I'm a member on techspot.

    not had a single issue on my RX580.

    Like I said, your sample of one is not indicative of any trends throughout the worldwide community, nor are even 75% of people not having problems an indication that no problems exist. If ten out of every 100 Navi owners have a problem, then it's a problem. Period.
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  • Makaveli
    Darkbreeze said:
    Like I said, your sample of one is not indicative of any trends throughout the worldwide community, nor are even 75% of people not having problems an indication that no problems exist. If ten out of every 100 Navi owners have a problem, then it's a problem. Period.

    And if you read my original post I did say the problem was there just not effecting everyone. Very last line of my post.

    no where did I say it was not a problem but you keep pushing that to further your point. Which was a point I never made.
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