Intel taps Apple for potential investment, says report — companies said to be discussing ways to work together more closely
Intel is in preliminary discussions with Apple regarding a potential investment, according to Bloomberg, which cites sources familiar with the matter. The two companies are also reportedly exploring ways to work more closely together, although it remains to be seen whether any potential deals can be reached, as negotiations are in the early stages and may not come to fruition.
The reported talks with Apple follow a string of recent deals, including major funding from Nvidia and SoftBank, and conversion of CHIPS Act funding from the U.S. government to equity. These moves are believed to be a part of the company's revival strategy that not only includes securing money, but also securing commitments to use the company's products and services going forward to justify developing Intel's next-generation 14A process technology and building production capacities that will support the node.
Apple used Intel's CPUs inside its PCs from 2005 to 2020, but it never used the company's low-power processors for its iPhones or iPads. Instead, it switched its Macs to Arm-based SoCs in 2020. Apple's current computers do not use any hardware from Intel, even though these systems use technologies originally developed by Intel or co-developed with Intel, including DisplayPort, NVMe, PCIe, Thunderbolt, and USB. Even Thunderbolt 5 controllers/retimers found in the latest MacBook Pro come from Apple, yet are certified by Intel. It is unknown how Apple and Intel could collaborate going forward, though the high-tech world is very convoluted.
Intel's timing to enter negotiations with Apple seems favourable as the high-tech giant has just received investments from Nvidia, SoftBank, and the U.S. government. Such high-profile backers reflect a growing belief in Intel's comeback, so it should be easier for the company to persuade Apple and other potential investors to buy Intel stock. Also, Apple has prioritized expanding its investments within the U.S., even though much of its supply chain remains abroad. In August, it pledged $600 billion toward domestic initiatives, an increase from a previous $500 billion commitment.
Obviously, a deal with Apple would further underscore confidence in Intel's direction, which would carry symbolic weight and bolster Intel's public image. However, if the rumored deal does not yield any agreement, this might harm Intel's position.
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Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.
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DS426 Apple's best interests are to let Intel continue to stumble; Intel will get way more out of the two scratching each other's backs. If Intel 14A is feasible for Apple Silicon production, sure, go for it, by why would Apple even risk it when they are one of TSMC's top customers and TSMC has the proven track record to consistently iterate forward? Tan has minimum margins established, so it's not like they can offer Apple a "deal" relative to TSMC (and even with 2 nm pricing going WAY up).Reply -
S58_is_the_goat Reply
Intel: hello and thank you for your interest in supporting intel, we also accept donations, the bigger the donation the bigger the tax write off 😉-Fran- said:What is next? Lip-Bu begging outside of Wallstreet for investment?
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TerryLaze Reply
TSMC also has a track record of increasing prices all the time and being backed up months ahead.DS426 said:why would Apple even risk it when they are one of TSMC's top customers and TSMC has the proven track record to consistently iterate forward?
Having intel as a second source will increase apples turn around, and will give TSMC some urgency to compete on prices, which both are always welcome things.
Those margins are for intel products not for the FABs, not that the FABs don't have a margin to reach but so do TSMC's .DS426 said:Tan has minimum margins established, so it's not like they can offer Apple a "deal" relative to TSMC (and even with 2 nm pricing going WAY up). -
Mr Majestyk Reply
No doubt Chump had his puppets demand Tim Apple help save Intel behind the scenes.-Fran- said:What is next? Lip-Bu begging outside of Wallstreet for investment?
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thestryker Reply
Apple has been minimizing cost output with regards to manufacturing so it's entirely possible they could manufacture down stack chips with IFS. Word is that Samsung recently cut prices on their 2nm node which undoubtedly is driven to keep their fabs busy as idle fabs cost more than selling silicon at a discounted rate. I highly doubt Intel would cut them a deal on whatever the leading edge node would be, assuming it's competitive, but in a hypothetical 14A is ready world then maybe Apple could go with 18A at a lower cost than TSMC N2(whatever derivative is up at the time).DS426 said:If Intel 14A is feasible for Apple Silicon production, sure, go for it, by why would Apple even risk it when they are one of TSMC's top customers and TSMC has the proven track record to consistently iterate forward?