In a blind test, audiophiles couldn't tell the difference between audio signals sent through copper wire, a banana, or wet mud — 'The mud should sound perfectly awful, but it doesn't,' notes the experiment creator

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  • voyteck
    1) Room acoustics.
    2) Speaker and listener placement within the particular room (requires measurements).
    3) Amp power sufficient to avoid clipping.
    4) Loudspeakers within the particular room.
    5) Getting accustomed to the sound.

    Aside from some extreme cases, like serious impedance mismatch or poor engineering, everything else is just cosmetic treatment, pure voodoo, or simply the result of subtle differences in loudness.
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  • LordVile
    Audiophiles are such a weird crowd. They argue they can tell the difference between different sources despite both being beyond human perception but then buy tube amps that are just flat out bad at their job vs solid state.
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  • USAFRet
    LordVile said:
    Audiophiles are such a weird crowd. They argue they can tell the difference between different sources despite both being beyond human perception but then buy tube amps that are just flat out bad at their job vs solid state.
    Monster has made millions off that cluelessness.

    PC people are often no better.
    Cat 8 cable must be faster than old school CAt5, right?
    And extreme FPS is even worse.
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  • LordVile
    USAFRet said:
    Monster has made millions off that cluelessness.

    PC people are often no better.
    Cat 8 cable must be faster than old school CAt5, right?
    And extreme FPS is even worse.
    Most things end up into the land of finishing returns. Cameras, displays, audio, cars, all the same
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  • USAFRet
    LordVile said:
    Most things end up into the land of finishing returns. Cameras, displays, audio, cars, all the same
    We already have people dancing with joy for the release of PCIe 6.0 SSDs, because their games will load and run faster.
    (eyeroll)
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  • ingtar33
    LordVile said:
    Audiophiles are such a weird crowd. They argue they can tell the difference between different sources despite both being beyond human perception but then buy tube amps that are just flat out bad at their job vs solid state.
    My father is an audiophile. He's in his 80s now, and he's insisted as long as he's lived the human ear cannot tell the difference between most audio equipment on the shelves today. he firmly believed if you went to a hobby store, and bought a kit speaker for $100-$150 then made it yourself, get a kit that uses real wood for the housing and with just basic copper wire to connect it to a $100 amplifier, you'd get basically identical sound to any high end audio system on the market.

    he is a physicist so he had a lot of math and proof for it. but i grew up around good sound, and i gotta say his speakers are still the best i've heard; using them now on my system and they're far superior to any store bought speaker system i've heard in a decade now.
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  • Shiznizzle
    USAFRet said:
    Monster has made millions off that cluelessness.

    PC people are often no better.
    Cat 8 cable must be faster than old school CAt5, right?
    And extreme FPS is even worse.
    What do you mean? You cant tell the difference between 360 hz and 480 hz? Are you blind?

    Don't go there. I am not serious at all and taking the mickey, seriously.

    I would like to see people telling me which one of the two screens is 480 hz. I bet they cant and if they do then i want to see 100 people doing that test since i suspect luck made the right choice and picked the right screen.
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  • Gururu
    I put on my FPS detector hat and I couldn't "feel" a difference.
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  • LordVile
    USAFRet said:
    We already have people dancing with joy for the release of PCIe 6.0 SSDs, because their games will load and run faster.
    (eyeroll)
    I’m waiting for PCIe 7.0 myself
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  • John Kiser
    USAFRet said:
    Monster has made millions off that cluelessness.

    PC people are often no better.
    Cat 8 cable must be faster than old school CAt5, right?
    And extreme FPS is even worse.
    I mean a cat8 cable is literslly up to 40 gigabit per second so yes it is better. Cat 5e is better than cat 5 since cat 5 has a limitation of 100 megabits per second so can't handle most modern speeds well. For most intents and purposes cat 6 is all most people would need or 6e with a bigger distance. Cat 8 is great if 30 meters or less atm, but home users only need 6e, 7 or 7e at most 5 is horrid 5e is the lowest people should use... so bad example
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