Up To 8TB Of SSDs In RAID 0: Highpoint Ultimate Acceleration Drive SSD7100, First Look

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  • msroadkill612
    Hmm, , i wonder what benchmarks would be for a similar nvme array would be on the native nvme of TR or Epyc.

    I suspect the results are similar.

    All sounds suss. They imply they are avoiding the limitations of pcie3, yet they are using a; pcie3 hardware/interface/device, a samsung 960 Pro.

    I think all intel is doing, is remedying a deficiency in their native nvme ports. The slide u show of intel PCH is a disgrace to Intel - what lies? To pretend to have all those ports available, yet they havnt a hope of working concurrently. Either of the 2x nvme ports they claim would completely max out the 4 lanes on the PCH. Its underhanded deception.

    It also bears noting this card isnt free, but a canny amd x399 mobo shopper, could get at least 3 full strength 4 lane nvme ports included - gleaned from the few moboS i have seen.
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  • Kraszmyl
    @ msroadkill612

    Well I can at least show you what it looks like on x99 , http://imgur.com/a/a68Sd
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  • dudmont
    Imagine this with Optane drives.....
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  • USAFRet
    19945520 said:
    This thing should be in the $199-$250 price range without SSD . the PLX chip is $80-$100 as I recall . the rest is dirt cheap .. asking $400 for an empty card is way too much. they dont even have emergency rechargeable battery included with the card at that price...

    Remember that some motherboards with with PLX chips cost around $400 ... that includes sound , Lan , chip set , slots , power components , socket , PLX chip , ports , M2, and a some 8 layers much bigger PCB etc ...

    Bring that card price down please ... $250 is OKAY

    Please justify your pricing thoughts.

    If you have need of 8TB SSD in RAID 0, and have the relevant backup situation required for a RAID 0...the difference between $200 and $400 for this interface card is not even a flyspeck.

    That $200 that you think it is over priced by is less than a single days pay for the tech who will install and manage this.
    Trivial.
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  • kanewolf
    19945520 said:
    This thing should be in the $199-$250 price range without SSD . the PLX chip is $80-$100 as I recall . the rest is dirt cheap .. asking $400 for an empty card is way too much. they dont even have emergency rechargeable battery included with the card at that price...

    Remember that some motherboards with with PLX chips cost around $400 ... that includes sound , Lan , chip set , slots , power components , socket , PLX chip , ports , M2, and a some 8 layers much bigger PCB etc ...

    Bring that card price down please ... $250 is OKAY

    If you believe it is overpriced -- THEN DON'T BUY ONE. If there are enough people of the same mindset then the vendor will either have to lower the price or will fail as a company. The vendor has done market research and believe that they can MAXIMIZE their profits at the price they have set.
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  • USAFRet
    19946111 said:

    This is not hardware RAID , this is only a PCIe x16 to 4x PCIe x4 split card in real.

    it is the same if you use 4 x4 PCIe slots on the motherboard , nothing more. it Just save you space. instead of using 4 slots you use one x16 slot. Thats all whats in it.

    OK...so what?
    (even if that were actually true)

    Their marketing dept has put a "retail" price of $400 on it.
    As said..that theoretical MSRP $400 means exactly squat.

    You don't just 'buy this' and slam it into your uber gaming PC, along with another $2,000 of SSD's.

    Your consultant simply provides you with a solution that meets your data and performance needs, of which this thing is a part of. Probably not even an individual line item on the invoice.
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  • USAFRet
    19946111 said:

    and I can use this for 1TB using 256GBx4 NVME SSD m2 cards to get 13000MB/s speed. this is not only for 8 TB ...

    Eventually, concepts like this filter down to the consumer level.
    Just like NVMe
    Just like SSD
    Just like HDD
    Just like 64bit/32bit/16bit....

    That this particular thing is $400 is meaningless.


    Lastly, I invite you to describe your particular use case that justifies 4 x 256GB NVMe drives in a RAID array.
    Actual numbers (not theoretical benchmarks) with and without would be helpful...

    The real world jump from floppy drive to HDD was huge. Speed AND size
    The real world jump from HDD to SSD was huge, in terms of speed
    The real world jump from SSD to NVMe, big, but not as large as before.
    SSD + RAID 0? Useless, in the vast majority of actual use cases
    NVMe + RAID 0? So far, useless in the vast majority of actual use cases.
    Optane? A rehash of IRST, just with a faster cache tech.

    Now...if you're a movie production house, in early development of Cars 5, or Toy Story 8....this may be useful to you now.

    Otherwise...it is simply "nice to know about".
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  • dE_logics
    "can't boot from the software array"

    Oh, gosh. 1 OS 1 limit and 1 world. I knew it. All this because you want to make Windows somehow faster and extend the times between reformats.
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  • USAFRet
    19946233 said:

    lol ... the same thing was said when we moved from 500MB/s Sata SSD to 3000MB/s Nvme , it is the same topic repeated again and again ...

    well welcome to the future :) ... when it is cheap to have crazy speed it is nice to have ... and it is becoming cheaper.

    I guess you missed the part where I said exactly the same thing.

    Whatever...I have a deck to go finish deconstructing before it rains again.
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  • Jayson_15
    RAID 0 is so risky though, even more so than a single drive because you're increasing the potential for failure over multiple drives. Make frequent backups.
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