Wow, just wow. It's like Fox news "balanced". It's as if Porsche came out and said fuel efficiency doesn't matter, and neither does performance, because the outside of the car is sexy and it matches the comfortable interior. Ok, we'll give the victory to Ferrari, because we can't compete with them (or Audi in more recent history).

Kyle, I'm with you and just dumbfounded at this news. "Wow, just wow", pretty much captures it. It sure doesn't sound good but we really have to wait and see actual performance and power consumption at different load levels. Maybe "platform performance" will be more than just marketing fluff.

Unless speed of work notebook is defined only by speed of the CPU? In HD-video, strongly will help the processor a chipset 780M. In games, to the processor also strongly will help 780M. I consider, that weak 3D just the strongest restriction in application notebook with what just will successfully consult 780M and that is not present now at Intel.
If together with mobile processor Intel to use a discrete graphic card it will strongly affect for the period of autonomy notebook, i.e. that for what notebook has been created.

P.S.
Sorry for my English, i'm from Russia.

Well we all know what the history of AMD is:
perfect "gaming"
and to offer a cheaper solution to the consumer.

But now they are losing their focus and don't really focus on what they are doing. They are falling more and more behind with CPU power(don't let me mention the problems and they can't even keep up with the "Core 2 Duo"). I for one am still a AMD fan, mainly because they haven't failed me in the past. Now I ask them don't fail me now....

After looking at some earlier articles again, this particular story doesn't say squat. In fact, it sounds more like THG jumping on a doom and gloom scenario without looking at the platform and it's design. Here's an article that talks a little about the "Power Express Technology" and how it switches between external and integrated graphics: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1406. If you take this into account, the above article doesn't say anything about when power consumption is high so it's really not saying anything. They're just repeating rumors without any facts or explanation.

There is very little solid fact in this article. Alot of "so we hear" and "Our sources tell us it might". Basically all we know are model numbers, and a little about the processor architecture. Everything else has been stated to be speculation. I'll wait and see when the real numbers come out, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. They're recovering from the mess of merging with ATI, and are starting to get their momentum built up again.

Still everyone knows how good the 780G+Athlon X2 is...... so maybe its not that bad....

Sorry for my English, i'm from Russia.

Not to worry!! Your English is much better than my Russian.

^ There, there comrade enthusiast

ohh God is it impossible to hear something positive from AMD

^ 780G happy now?

The good news for Intel is that they are running at such low power that it allows then to build systems like the Apple Air, and Lenovo X300.
The good news for AMD is that they can cook your eggs for breakfast while you work with their laptops. I was at a best buy few days ago and I was touching the button of the laptops that were on display. The Intel systems were extremely cool to the touch while the AMD systems would be extremely hot even at idle. If you don?t believe me just next time your are at an electronic store give it a shot yourself. By the way most of the performance that 99% of people experience in laptops is associated with HD performance and not the CPU.

yes there is one thing the 4870 will be out soon and its a good bang for a buck but on cpu run there indeed behind. graphics is going well if not soon even better then that of the competition. especialy amds low end solutions such as the IGP or dirt cheap high end 3850 do great. but for cpu's there behind. and on the most optimistic side of the story they will have by the end of the year a processor which can follow up with intels products with may be a margin of 5-15% diffrence? who knows most major bugs in the phenom are gone now and it seems they are increasing the clock speeds as well now with the B3 stepping.
i my self have a TL-56 in my notebook which actualy was a good deal for the price preformance since it had a good graphic card with it geforce 8600GS, and the intel competition did only offer a radeon 2300 for same price at that time.

I'm guessing AMD is losing focus here or they're putting their place up for grabs due to them not caring about CPU performance. I feel as if they have lost a lot since they merged with ATI, especially in regards of financial stability. Secondly, they have not come up with anything new for quite a while now, and the competition is really breaking apart. Remember when Intel used to clock their CPU's at 3.8GHz? That was because of AMD's competition. But now, the highest they've been to since the Core 2 series is up to 2.93GHz, regardless of Dual or Quad core. I am neither an Intel or AMD fan, rather I buy what's better, however, it seems AMD has gone way down in my list, and reading this report doesn't make it any better. It's disappointing.

I call BS on the power comment. I'm sure it isn't a heap better, but if it has the power plane technology of the K10, but the core of the K8, it should be consuming less power. The statement that it consumes more power than the Turion sounds like an exaggeration to me.

Rest of it sounds about right.

The macbook runs with a Core 2 and it burns!!! Explain that.........

Yo guys, clam down, I don't know is this actually a true fact or not or one of Intel fanboys is spoiling this. I wanted an PUMA + 780M, yeah who is actually spoiling this?
Let just wait for the real numbers, I especially hate rumors. This article really makes me wanna buy an Intel laptop with Nvidia GFX right now. So clam down.

^ don't know about you but I wanna wait until the benchies are out.........

Or oyster, whichever you perfer.

^ free food

^ oh wait I'm a vegetarian

Oh I see you're an Intel fanboi. Uh huh, I was an Intel fanboy before but I'm neutral now.
Let's say I don't think you even got real proofs but just a piece of rumors to support ya don't ya? I suggest we'll wait and see.
Anyway if AMD epic fail this time then I'll have to get an Intel Peryn and GeForce GFX on a notebook.

http://www.hexus.tv/category.php?cat=36
KyleSTL here's some peanut butter for ya.

^ I was an AMD fangirl but now I'm neutral but still got a little bit of bias regarding HTPCs tho..........

OMG I haven't notice my spelling mistake. LOL. I must be drunk typing it. Drunk words FTW. LMAO

Horsepower to cost ratio is the most important factor.

and everyone has different needs. if u just need websurfing, emailing, documents and non-hardcore gaming, i would say 780m might be a better deal.

though core 2 duos are really just too good. =) but i dont really need them. lol.

Fanboy, hardly. I built my girlfriend's computer with an AMD X2, and the one before that with an XP 2400+. I have had (in chronological order): Pentium Pro 100mhz, Pentium II 450mhz, Pentium 4 3.2ghz (current). I intend to rebuild my HTPC (the girlfriend's old AXP) with a 5000+ BE/780G combo. I will build my next desktop with Nehalem (as long as it's as good as I believe it will be, or AMD if they pull off a miracle in the next 12 months).

Calm ≠ clam. Thank you for [finally] understanding the joke. I'm not sure what you originally implied that my oyster comment meant.

Cheap laptop for gaming and movie watching will be definately based on 780G. I dont understand why people using their computers mainly for internet demands highest performance dual or quad core processors. Overkill. X2 have enough power for common things and its cheap...
Now Im building desktop for web browsing/text editing/casual gaming based on 780G and XP5000. Cheap as a bargain..

That's why you have one computer for gaming and another for browsing......

This is the same crummy article from the same bias author as this one....http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37116/135/

I would think Toms Hardware would have a higher standard for its news, and not be biased. The article title is just Intel PR.

The Turion X2 is not that far behind the C2D in actual computing power, but I always see morons saying a 2.5Ghz X2 is the same speed as a 2Ghz C2D. People just don't understand what criteria determines these ratings, so Intel lovers find benchmarks, like burning a CD in this specific program runs faster on my C2D.

I don't mind building an Intel based machine, but I don't like thier politics, and history of deepening their pockets with our money while they don't give us the best they can offer at fair prices. That is until AMD bit them in the ars!!

Just because an Intel machine puts the power button further from heat sources doesn't mean they don't get hot too. And what says its has anything to do with AMD, when it could be a Nvidia graphics card heating it up, or an OEMs crummy battery.

I can't wait to get a Puma platform notebook, holding out for it, and I'm hoping they are coming with HD3800 series graphics for a big surprise, or at least some 512MB GDDR3 HD3650s.

^ Exactly, you'll know how hot Macbook feels under your lap.......

fangirl: Is that a real quote about thunderman? If so, awesome.