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MSI P45 Platinum

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4:20 AM - 08/25/2008 by Thomas Soderstrom

MSI’s Platinum series represents high-end features at better-value pricing, and a starting price of around $175 for it P45 Platinum puts this model directly between the high-end and mainstream parts of other brands. That raises a question of whether the P45 Platinum is a better value competitor to high-end parts like the Asus P5Q Deluxe, or an upscale competitor to mainstream models such as the Biostar TPower i45. Let’s see if we can figure it out.

It appears MSI has given up on its Circu-Pipe chipset cooler design and gone with a more artistic style. Under those sinks are the P45 Express northbridge, ICH10R southbridge, and the transistors for a 6-phase CPU voltage regulator.

While all of the P45 Platinum’s key features can be found on a cheaper competitor’s motherboard, none of the sub-$150 boards have all of them. For example, only the Jetway HI04 has a six-phase voltage regulator, but Jetway doesn’t use the RAID-supporting ICH10R southbridge or provide IEEE-1394 FireWire. And while Jetway would appear to have a lead over MSI with its extra eSATA port, MSI has two additional internal SATA ports.

So is the P45 Platinum a more expensive alternative to the Jetway HI04, or is the HI04 a cheap knock-off of the MSI P45 Platinum ? A look back at Jetway’s rendition of MSI’s former “Circu-Pipe” cooler design could provide some insight, though Jetway has the singular advantage of its two-digit post-code display.

When it comes to connector placement however, MSI has a huge lead over cheaper competitors. Eight-pin and 24-pin power connectors are almost ideally located at the top rear corner and front edge, the floppy connector is located directly behind the place where most tower cases have a 3.5” external bay, and the Ultra ATA connector is only a little low on the front edge for somewhat easy cable routing to the upper bays of mid-tower cases. This combination pits the P45 Platinum directly against ultra expensive competition like the Asus Maximus II Formula.

Like the Maximus II Formula, the P45 Platinum has the distinction of six forward-facing Serial ATA ports that could be blocked by the hard drive cages of some cases, and two additional upward-facing ports. Graphics card clearance is the reason for pointing those six ports forward, and when placed into a properly laid-out case, either model will allow a full set of drive cables to be installed. MSI has the advantage of separate three-gigabit pathways for its added ports, while Asus’ disadvantage is a side-effect of the otherwise highly-praised SteelVine port multiplier.

There are a few things that prevent MSI from competing directly on price alone with the Maximus II Formula however, as the Asus model has an audio riser card with a claimed increase in audio clarity, and added slot that can service either PCI Express x1 cards or the audio riser card, an externally-mounted diagnostics display module, dual BIOS, and—for those who care about such things—more bling.

MSI doesn’t just lack lights under its power and reset buttons, it doesn’t even put shiny covers on them. Not that this matters to us, but it’s sure to affect the buying decisions of those whose tastes are a little more flamboyant. Beneath the buttons are three USB headers to support a combination of six USB 2.0 ports and bay devices.

So is the P45 Platinum a premium alternative to mainstream motherboards, or a less-expensive alternative to high-end parts ? Neither. For today’s review the P45 Platinum owns the $150-200 segment, as it competitors have provided no similarly-priced products to compare it to.

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nickchalk 08/25/2008 11:19 AM
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Where are the lower price P45 M/B ?
Asus P5Q pro is out for €110 and P5Q deluxe for €165 the price difference is about 70$ in Greece.

nihility 08/25/2008 1:41 PM
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51 pages... You won't be upset if I read just the last 3 pages right?

Proximon 08/25/2008 2:18 PM
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I suppose I can get some good from having read this. Did you get paid by the word? Maybe next time you could just put together a complete features chart so that we can have some convenient comparison? You know, so someone could go to a chart and see at a glance which boards had eSATA or firewire, or 8 USB.

JPForums 08/25/2008 2:31 PM
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I'd rather have the overabundance of information than a lack of information. Presentation could use a little refining (I.E. comparison charts and the likes), but having the relevant information available at least is a good thing.

Anonymous 08/25/2008 2:55 PM
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the introduction and specifics are nice, the comparision isn't. so, why don't you test with an 8500 or qx9650? 6850 are outdated... and a mobo handling a c2d doesn't mean it can handle a quad too, see P5K for example (it stinks when it comes to a q6600).

Crashman 08/25/2008 3:57 PM
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proci :
the introduction and specifics are nice, the comparision isn't. so, why don't you test with an 8500 or qx9650? 6850 are outdated... and a mobo handling a c2d doesn't mean it can handle a quad too, see P5K for example (it stinks when it comes to a q6600).



Tom's Hardware wants the performance of current articles to reflect that of recent articles, so a "standard test platform" was chosen a while ago. It will get updated, but probably not before the new socket becomes widely available.

zenmaster 08/25/2008 5:23 PM
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I would have liked to see something such as a P35 and an X48 as controls to help analyze the P45 Performance.

In otherwords, What is the P45 Gaining me over the older P35.
What would I gain by going to the X48. (Or Lose)

Crashman 08/25/2008 5:26 PM
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zenmaster :
I would have liked to see something such as a P35 and an X48 as controls to help analyze the P45 Performance.In otherwords, What is the P45 Gaining me over the older P35.What would I gain by going to the X48. (Or Lose)


http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,1961.html

johnbilicki 08/25/2008 5:47 PM
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dobby 08/25/2008 5:59 PM
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nickchalk :
Where are the lower price P45 M/B ?Asus P5Q pro is out for €110 and P5Q deluxe for €165 the price difference is about 70$ in Greece.



the p5q PRo is a p43 board, i should know i have one

dobby 08/25/2008 6:03 PM
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johnbilicki :
The first 17 pages were filled with nothing but junk from ASUS. Do us a favor: don't even bother featuring or *MENTIONING* anything for any reason from a company that refuses to RMA 200-400 dollar brand new motherboards with anything other then used and usually broken junk. It destroyed my enthusiasm for the article.



if you RMA through your Vendor then you get a new one, which BTW most big vendors dont even check to see whether the part is broken.

also this article is good, way better than other recent articles especially mac orinated ones) what would be good though is a big summary table. also if the charts where updated.

Anonymous 08/25/2008 6:33 PM
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"the p5q PRo is a p43 board, i should know i have one"

Funny, so do i and it's a p45.

shadow703793 08/25/2008 6:48 PM
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You forgot the EP45-DS3L. :( . Also why include cr@ppy brands (ie JetWay) any ways?

Crashman 08/25/2008 7:22 PM
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johnbilicki :
The first 17 pages were filled with nothing but junk from ASUS. Do us a favor: don't even bother featuring or *MENTIONING* anything for any reason from a company that refuses to RMA 200-400 dollar brand new motherboards with anything other then used and usually broken junk. It destroyed my enthusiasm for the article.



Lies. The first two motherboards were from ASRock. The two companies are not the same, regardless of any ties they may have.

Crashman 08/25/2008 7:23 PM
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nickchalk :
Where are the lower price P45 M/B ?Asus P5Q pro is out for €110 and P5Q deluxe for €165 the price difference is about 70$ in Greece.



There are low-priced P45's in there. The ECS only cost $110 US, which, given the weakness of US currency, is cheap.

Crashman 08/25/2008 7:25 PM
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Shadow703793 :
You forgot the EP45-DS3L. . Also why include cr@ppy brands (ie JetWay) any ways?



NO motherboards were "Forgotten". Everyone got a chance to submit up to two motherboards, Gigabyte sent one. Jetway send one. Any of the other brands you disliked that were in the review, were there because everyone got an equal shot.

jerreece 08/25/2008 8:42 PM
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johnbilicki :
The first 17 pages were filled with nothing but junk from ASUS. Do us a favor: don't even bother featuring or *MENTIONING* anything for any reason from a company that refuses to RMA 200-400 dollar brand new motherboards with anything other then used and usually broken junk. It destroyed my enthusiasm for the article.



At least you have a completely unbiased view of this...

I haven't read through the entire article. I actually skipped to the Conclusion first to see what board was rated as best (frankly that's important to me). Unfortunately, I see the second best, third best, but I'm having a hard time identifiying what Tom's calls the 1st best. It is not clearly stated.

cruiseoveride 08/25/2008 9:02 PM
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that msi rocks ass. my next board.

johnbilicki 08/25/2008 9:21 PM
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ASRock is a subsidiary of ASUS hence their RMA policies are likely to emulate that of ASUS.

Don't give me a thumbs down for sticking up for consumer rights. Thumb my comments down if you LIKE getting used and often broken replacements for your $200+ brand new though malfunctioning/broken boards.

Another problem ASUS seems to create is that it is usually the only company that builds motherboards for the GOOD AMD socket chipsets leaving us to wait for only a very select few (1~3 780A and nForce 4 true 16X SLI are examples) motherboard choices. This is *NO* different then how Dell used to use proprietary parts to lock you in. I LIKE choice and I expect ANY part regardless of it's price to have a NEW replacement for a RMA so long as it's covered under warranty.

So long as they play politics this way and try to sucker people I will speak up for the less informed enthusiasts. Let's not forget Gigabyte busting ASUS *AND* having a couple articles featured on this very site about it earlier this year.

My favorite is the Gigabyte board based on features. The article was interesting though what is with the inconsistencies? For example some motherboards have images of the IO panel while others do not. Still it was a good read.

jimmysmitty 08/25/2008 9:52 PM
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^I will agree with you on that part but when it comes to good quality, performance and extra features I have never had a problem with Asus. I of course have been lucky enough to never have one break one me.


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