Framework Laptop 16 (RTX 5070) review: Yes, you can upgrade the GPU

Framework actually did it, but there are some quirks to iron out.

Framework Laptop 16
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Tom's Hardware Verdict

Framework did it — with the Laptop 16, you can upgrade the GPU. While the laptop is extremely customizable, it still has some fit and finish issues and is pricey, particularly if you're using it for gaming.

Reasons to buy

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    Framework did it; you can upgrade a GPU in a laptop

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    Matte display is vivid and avoids reflections

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    Extremely customizable

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    240W GaN USB-C charger is available

Reasons to avoid

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    Keyboard module is mushy

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    Design still has seams that look and feel cheap

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    More expensive than RTX 5070 gaming laptops

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Imagine not needing to replace your entire laptop when you want a new GPU. It's been tried before, but never successfully. But with the release of the second-generation Framework Laptop 16, you have a system with a realistic GPU upgrade path.The new Framework Laptop 16 comes with the option of an Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 laptop GPU, which can power your new laptop or replace the GPU in the original Framework Laptop 16 from 2024.

While that makes this the most repairable and upgradeable laptop we've ever seen, it still may not be the best gaming laptop. It's more expensive than most other RTX 5070 machines, and Framework still needs to work on making this system feel as premium as its price.

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  • cameronbosch
    Let me start by saying that I agree that it's finally good to have replaceable GPUs in a laptop. That was really upsetting me.

    I will say that none of the things you mentioned are major issues, especially because look is very subjective, as I'm tired of all of the flashy RGB light strip gaming laptops 🤢🤮 that so many brands seem to think are popular with aggressive vents. And the price is actually not terrible; it is a bit high for what you get, but understandable for a smaller OEM that is also an ODM. And you're also paying for one for the few OEMs to officially support Linux AND make their own laptop hardware without repurposing Tongfang or Clevo chassis which are often WORSE in many ways that other ODMs, especially with Clevo.

    That being said, there is one issue that Framework has caused that honestly caused me, as a person who fully bought into their hardware, to leave. That is the promotion and then funding of a certain problematic individual who has seriously inappropriate views. When confronted about this, each time, the CEO kept denying this was an issue and even tried to quash the dissent by merging all of the negative responses into one threat, and even shutting down their Discord channel.

    I can deal with high prices. I can deal with slightly worse specs than other brands that are still better than Clevo repackages. I can even deal with their refusal to offer dGPUs with more than 8 GB of vRAM leading to not as good performance in games with ray-tracing or at 2560x1600. But funding an insecure problematic Linux "distro" (if you can even call Omarchy a Linux distro, more like a bunch of scripts on top of Arch Linux), defending it, and going so far as to keep funding the projects as they bleed former users? Now that's a serious issue, and why I can no longer defend them. And it's a real loss for us Linux and right to repair users.
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  • bennyg55
    It's just so expensive! Here in Australia it's 4300 AUD for the 12 core HX + 5070 kit preorder, without ram, storage, ports or even a charger!
    I could have equivalent performance for half as much or for ~5K I could have my pick of any of the R9 or U9 + 5070Ti-M and many 5080M laptops... So the premium of being able to shift ports around with easier part-swapping makes for a very expensive luxury.
    As a high end 2010s era Clevo modder & upgrader I remain disappointed by Framework.
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  • Crazyy8
    God I would love to have a Framework laptop, but the cost compared to similar spec'ed laptops really kills it for me. I could get a base or slightly upgraded Mac mini for the price of the skeleton model, I could even go full LAN party and get a desktop in a portable case. Granted, that isn't taking into account the cost of a monitor, mouse, et cetera. All that's just fantasies, though, as I can't afford tech right now.
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  • helper800
    The thing most people miss when considering the price of these laptops as too high is that when you need to get more performance out of the laptop, you don't have to buy another one, you spend 1/3rd - 1/2 as much as a new laptop on an upgrade. Over time, the Framework model is cheaper than buying the best bang for the buck laptop every 3 years. Old parts can also be utilized, resold, or kept as a backup part if the new one fails out of warranty.
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  • BFG-9000
    Old parts can be repurposed into a mini-desktop too, such as the $39 plastic case for the Laptop 13 board. Currently the only official case available for Laptop 16 parts though is a tower that also accepts mini-ITX boards, but I'm sure someone will 3D print one shortly.
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  • LordVile
    Yet you still can’t repair the ports. It also doesn’t help that framework upgrade prices make it more financially practical and environmentally friendly to just buy a differently laptop, sell it and then buy another. Upgrading the main board, battery and GPU costs more than the entire laptop which is already more expensive than competing products which are better overall packages which are also upgradable and you can actually replace the ports without soldering or replacing the mainboard.
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  • LordVile
    BFG-9000 said:
    Old parts can be repurposed into a mini-desktop too, such as the $39 plastic case for the Laptop 13 board. Currently the only official case available for Laptop 16 parts though is a tower that also accepts mini-ITX boards, but I'm sure someone will 3D print one shortly.
    But what’s the point? If it’s too weak to be a laptop it’s not powerful enough to be a desktop. You’re better off selling it and buying a new device.
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  • BFG-9000
    LordVile said:
    Yet you still can’t repair the ports. It also doesn’t help that framework upgrade prices make it more financially practical and environmentally friendly to just buy a differently laptop, sell it and then buy another. Upgrading the main board, battery and GPU costs more than the entire laptop which is already more expensive than competing products which are better overall packages which are also upgradable and you can actually replace the ports without soldering or replacing the mainboard.
    ? If you had read the article you would have seen the motherboard doesn't have any ports, and all ports are added using expansion modules that simply slide in, no soldering or tools required. And they are as cheap as $11
    LordVile said:
    But what’s the point? If it’s too weak to be a laptop it’s not powerful enough to be a desktop. You’re better off selling it and buying a new device.
    There is a long tradition of repurposing an old desktop for use as a router or NAS which doesn't need to be very powerful, and laptop parts will use much less power than an old desktop for something that is always-on. Only here it's easier than a normal laptop, as you can slide in more ethernet ports to those expansion bays, tool-free. So you are more suggesting selling off something you already have to buy a NUC or mini-PC that isn't any faster.

    Yes, it would make sense to sell off the GPU if you won't use it with the new motherboard, as the old motherboard can revert to integrated graphics for such pedestrian uses (you'd only use it for setup anyway and then go headless). With another brand laptop, repurposing it this way would waste the screen and nonremovable gaming GPU so it would indeed make more sense to sell the whole thing.
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  • LordVile
    BFG-9000 said:
    ? If you had read the article you would have seen the motherboard doesn't have any ports, and all ports are added using expansion modules that simply slide in, no soldering or tools required. And they are as cheap as $11
    No those are dongles you can buy that plug into the USBC ports that are soldered to the board.
    BFG-9000 said:
    There is a long tradition of repurposing an old desktop for use as a router or NAS which doesn't need to be very powerful, and laptop parts will use much less power than an old desktop for something that is always-on. Only here it's easier than a normal laptop, as you can slide in more ethernet ports to those expansion bays, tool-free. So you are more suggesting selling off something you already have to buy a NUC or mini-PC that isn't any faster.
    Which doesn’t really work due to the lack of PCIE expansion. It’s also significantly more expensive than just buying a router or NAS. Like how are you going to turn it into a NAS with one drive?
    BFG-9000 said:
    Yes, it would make sense to sell off the GPU if you won't use it with the new motherboard, as the old motherboard can revert to integrated graphics for such pedestrian uses (you'd only use it for setup anyway and then go headless). With another brand laptop, repurposing it this way would waste the screen and nonremovable gaming GPU so it would indeed make more sense to sell the whole thing.
    Where are you selling the GPU to? There’s no market for it and framework put all the older parts on fire sale as soon as they move on to a new SKU so you’re not going to get a good price regardless.

    Or you could just sell the old laptop to someone who could use it and buy a new one which is cheaper for you and prevents it becoming Ewaste on a shelf.

    Framework is a solution looking for a problem and the problem doesn’t exist. At least until there actually price competitive and you could actually sell the parts on. I worked it out not too long ago and it’s more expensive to buy a 13” framework laptop and upgrade the mainboard that it is to buy a MacBook Air, sell it and buy a new one. The framework mainboard replacements are also more expensive than a MacBook Air logic board replacement.
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  • circadia
    helper800 said:
    The thing most people miss when considering the price of these laptops as too high is that when you need to get more performance out of the laptop, you don't have to buy another one, you spend 1/3rd - 1/2 as much as a new laptop on an upgrade. Over time, the Framework model is cheaper than buying the best bang for the buck laptop every 3 years.
    depending on where you live, not really. Even a brand new latest-generation Framework 13 motherboard could cost a lot more than a decent laptop of major brands with a higher-tiered chipset or higher build quality, overall specs, etc.
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