AMD's Updated Ryzen 3 1200 With 12nm Zen+ Architecture Hits Retailers

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Niels Broekhuijsen
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Niels Broekhuijsen is a Contributing Writer for Tom's Hardware US. He reviews cases, water cooling and pc builds.

  • jeremyj_83
    admin said:
    AMD's three-year old Ryzen 3 1200 CPU gets a nifty upgrade.

    AMD's Upd Ryzen 3 1200 With 12nm Zen+ Architecture Hits Retailers : Read more
    That could end up being a very good budget gaming system CPU.
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  • King_V
    Well, if the 1600 AF is regularly available for $85, I wonder what the 1200 AF would be?

    And, what does this do to the Athlon prices (although those have integrated GPU, so not exactly the same thing, but still, likely to have an effect).
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  • jeremyj_83
    King_V said:
    Well, if the 1600 AF is regularly available for $85, I wonder what the 1200 AF would be?

    And, what does this do to the Athlon prices (although those have integrated GPU, so not exactly the same thing, but still, likely to have an effect).
    Does pose an interesting question in regards to the Athlon. The 3000G is currently the cheapest one at $60. If you need a dGPU & the Athlon 3000G & Zen+ R3 1200 are the same price, you go with the R3 every day. Really the top end Athlon is going to have to top out a $50 and only that much because it has the iGPU.
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  • King_V
    The Athlon prices are really weird. The 3000g of course undercut all the previous Athlons. Yet, somehow, despite being officially released at $49.99, the 3000g is generally selling for more (exception: MicroCenter in-store currently $44.99), and the old 2x0ge models are selling for equal to or more than the 3000g, despite the fact that they are all lesser performing.

    This is not just because of the pandemic, either, it's been like that for a while.

    I feel a Rick James meme about drugs seems applicable to Athlon pricing. I have a bit of a suspicion that even with the Ryzen 3 1200 AF and the release of the Ryzen 3 Zen+ CPUs, that the Athlon pricing is still going to be strange.
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  • InvalidError
    Wish AMD would just drop the MSRPs on 2000-series instead of re-badging them as 1000-serie and introducing unnecessary confusion.
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  • King_V
    I think maybe they don't guarantee that it hits the clock rates of the 2000 series? Not really sure.

    There's got to be SOME reason for them to be putting this extra effort in. I hope.
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  • AnimeMania
    AMD should have spread the trace out on the old die size area to improve thermals and increase the GHz. This would have instantly become the low cost gaming solution.
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  • InvalidError
    King_V said:
    I think maybe they don't guarantee that it hits the clock rates of the 2000 series? Not really sure.
    The 1600AF could have been branded something like 2600LE or 2590. Having first-gen branding on second-gen is very screwy. For example, people who have OEM systems from companies like Dell and think they can put a 1600AF in get screwed over because their first-gen OEM motherboard does not support 2nd-gen chips.
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  • bit_user
    AnimeMania said:
    AMD should have spread the trace out on the old die size area to improve thermals and increase the GHz. This would have instantly become the low cost gaming solution.
    Isn't that basically the definition of Zen+? They didn't change the layout - just the space in between the traces. I know that's oversimplified, but this point was emphasized in the initial reviews.
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  • alextheblue
    InvalidError said:
    For example, people who have OEM systems from companies like Dell and think they can put a 1600AF in get screwed over because their first-gen OEM motherboard does not support 2nd-gen chips.
    To be fair, I'm pretty sure the big OEMs will at least have Zen+ capable BIOS available.
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