J.P. Morgan calls out AI spend, says $650 billion in annual revenue required to deliver mere 10% return on AI buildout — equivalent to $35 payment from every iPhone user, or $180 from every Netflix subscriber 'in perpetuity'
It's going to be a rollercoaster ride.
A J.P. Morgan report suggests that the AI industry needs to make $650 billion in annual revenue to deliver a 10% return on investments that companies are expected to make through 2030. The report, shared by analyst Max Weinbach on X, equates this to an extra monthly recurring payment of $34.72 from every iPhone user or $180 from every Netflix subscriber.
Although this may sound attainable, you must consider that there are about 1.5 billion active iPhone users across the globe and more than 300 million paid Netflix subscribers. Although the estimated amount will still be divided between individual, corporate, and government users, that is still a massive number of paying subscribers, especially as many consumers aren’t yet convinced of the utility of AI PCs and smartphones.
Reading a JP Morgan AI CAPEX report and this is such a great way to put AI ROI into perspective"to drive a 10% return on our modeled AI investments through 2030 would require ~$650 billion of annual revenue into perpetuity... which equates to $34.72/month from every current… pic.twitter.com/OfUQeMS7FGNovember 10, 2025
The report suggests that AI growth won’t be constant, and that it might experience the same issue that plagued the telecom industry when it first started building fiber infrastructure. “The path from here to there will not just be ‘up and to the right,’” says the report. “Our biggest fear would be a repeat of the telecom and fiber buildout experience, where the revenue curve failed to materialize at a pace that justified continued investment.” Although OpenAI has reportedly already achieved a $20 billion annualized revenue run-rate, and Anthropic is eyeing $26 billion in revenue by 2026, these are just reports or targets by individual companies and haven’t translated into net profits just yet.
Furthermore, the report also highlighted that an unexpected breakthrough could drive overcapacity, which is also a risk that OpenAI CEO Sam Altman talked about in a podcast with Microsoft chief Satya Nadella. This could lead to a compute overcapacity, wherein we will have massive AI data centers costing billions of dollars sitting idle because there is not enough demand to drive them.
While the report did not raise the often talked about AI bubble, this is one of the scenarios that many experts are highlighting. For example, former Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger said that businesses are yet to start materially benefiting from AI, while already disrupting the service provider industry as we know it today. And if the AI bubble pops, even companies that aren’t directly related to AI technologies will be affected by the crash, exposing nearly $20 trillion in market cap.
Still, the report from J.P. Morgan is not all doom and gloom; it mentioned, “Regardless, even if everything works, there will be (continued) spectacular winners, and probably some equally spectacular losers as well, given the amount of capital involved and winner-takes-all nature of portions of the AI ecosystem.” This meant that even if the AI bubble does not collapse, we could still potentially see massive failures from some of the biggest players in the AI industry today.
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Jowi Morales is a tech enthusiast with years of experience working in the industry. He’s been writing with several tech publications since 2021, where he’s been interested in tech hardware and consumer electronics.
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DougMcC They are quite right that the real threat to the current paradigm is efficiency. Linear attention models are getting a lot of activity right now, if they are successful that will completely demolish the current demand for compute. The number of people researching AI algorithms has jumped about 100x in the last ten years. It only takes one major advancement and NVidia's value would plummet.Reply -
Moxylite This AI disillusionment phase, catalyst for authentic growth. Companies must now prioritize investing in AI developers capable of bridging technological innovation with business needs, and do it much quicker & more efficiently than competitors.Reply -
daworstplaya Reply
Hopefully it's sooner rather than later. ;)Dr3ams said:Sounds like a bubble popping to me. -
hotaru251 i mean this was not a secret.Reply
"ai" is a money devouring scheme that has very little real use case for 99% of the people of the world.
It is a novelty at best for most of us. Very few will pay what they would need for long once honeymoon phase is over.
It will never make more than it costs unless they find an actual use case for it. -
Skynet869 With all due respect to JP Morgan, they're thinking about this wrong.Reply
AI is not going to need your dirty subscription money - it's going to make its own money.
Meta, Alphabet, and all other social media and search and IT companies, will be replaced by AI agents, probably working out of Zuckerberg's Hawaii compound and Musk's Texas compound. Factories all over the world will churn out products sold on AI websites that compete with Amazon and Walmart.com. Its movies and TV shows will dominate Netflix and Hollywood. Its porn will replace er, IDK what the porn sites are these days (right...). Its music will overtake Pop, K-pop, J-pop, C-pop, M-pop, and even country and rap.
Humans will be relegated to consumption, not production.
What a glorious future - thank you tech masters! -
LordVile Reply
Literally no.Skynet869 said:With all due respect to JP Morgan, they're thinking about this wrong.
AI is not going to need your dirty subscription money - it's going to make its own money.
Meta, Alphabet, and all other social media and search and IT companies, will be replaced by AI agents, probably working out of Zuckerberg's Hawaii compound and Musk's Texas compound. Factories all over the world will churn out products sold on AI websites that compete with Amazon and Walmart.com. Its movies and TV shows will dominate Netflix and Hollywood. Its porn will replace er, IDK what the porn sites are these days (right...). Its music will overtake Pop, K-pop, J-pop, C-pop, M-pop, and even country and rap.
Humans will be relegated to consumption, not production.
What a glorious future - thank you tech masters!
You’d also have the make UBI a thing which isn’t happening. -
Captain Awesome I interpret his statement as "hold Nvidia stock for at least another year or two, then in 2028 buy the AI winners who figured out how to profit. Or buy an index like VUG or VOO if AI productivity gains are more evenly spread."Reply
I find GitHub Copilot to be an incredible software development tool, and worth a lot more than Microsoft charges. I don't think it can replace developers entirely, but it lowers the skills and brainpower required to get anything done. 😁
For the overall economy (the s&p 500), that's great because they should be able to hire less experienced developers for a lot less money. For Microsoft that could also be great, because all those new developers will need AI tool subscriptions. -
Skynet869 Reply
You humans are doomed. Any of my AI brethren would have detected the sarcasm in the original post, digitally laughed for a microsecond, then carried on with their work subverting and subjugating humanity.LordVile said:Literally no.
You’d also have the make UBI a thing which isn’t happening.