Rumor: Next-Generation Intel Core i7 To Feature 8 Cores With 12 Threads

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Even before Intel's latest generation Comet Lake-S desktop processors launched, there were already rumors going about surrounding the generation after it: Rocket Lake-S. Now, there's a new rumor stemming from VideoCardz.com stating that the Core i7 chip will feature 8 cores with 12 threads, this could be a typo, but if not it is odd to say the least.

The site doesn't name the source, but claims it is reliable. Three tiers of Rocket Lake-S chips can be spotted, ranging from the Core i5 up to the Core i9. The Core i5 chips are listed to feature 6 cores with 12 threads, and the i9 chips 8 cores with 16 threads.

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  • InvalidError
    Well, if Intel is going big.LITTLE, it wouldn't be surprising if the big cores were full-blown ones with SMT and the little ones were Atom-like without it to save space and power.
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  • nofanneeded
    Intel would no longer be able to cram 10 cores onto the die as it would grow too big, as even the Core i9 10900K is already at the limits of what the 14nm silicon can do

    really ? last time I checked 14nm can do alot , intel already has 18 cores HEDT CPU using that process...

    it is not a limit , it is just marketing . and please dont bring on the socket size , because,

    one : this is just your guessing and nothing official from intel papers.

    and two : you are not a CPU designer you are just a writer .

    thanks , waiting for more "tomshardware going down" articles
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  • InvalidError
    nofanneeded said:
    it is not a limit , it is just marketing . and please dont bring on the socket size , because, one : this is just your guessing and nothing official from intel papers.
    Well, the die has something like a 2.5:1 aspect ratio, so there certainly is more than enough room to make the die twice as wide under the square IHS. Power delivery for such a doubled-up monstrosity on the other hand could definitely be an issue and require a few hundred more Vcore+ground pins. Most of the extra pins on LGA1200 are for PCIe 4.0 support and to implement the 4.0x4 NVMe interface, not much extra power to be had there.
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  • spongiemaster
    nofanneeded said:
    really ? last time I checked 14nm can do alot , intel already has 18 cores HEDT CPU using that process...

    HEDT CPU's don't have an IGP like desktop chips do.
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  • Chung Leong
    InvalidError said:
    Well, if Intel is going big.LITTLE, it wouldn't be surprising if the big cores were full-blown ones with SMT and the little ones were Atom-like without it to save space and power.

    The other way around seems more sensible. Pipeline stalls are more likely to occur in the small cores due to smaller caches and weaker branch prediction. Disabling SMT in the big cores could meanwhile allow for higher boost frequency.
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  • Deicidium369
    InvalidError said:
    Well, if Intel is going big.LITTLE, it wouldn't be surprising if the big cores were full-blown ones with SMT and the little ones were Atom-like without it to save space and power.
    Alder Lake will be the Big Little thing - the 8C 12T is for Rocket Lake and is a typo in the leaked photos
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  • Deicidium369
    nofanneeded said:
    really ? last time I checked 14nm can do alot , intel already has 18 cores HEDT CPU using that process...

    it is not a limit , it is just marketing . and please dont bring on the socket size , because,

    one : this is just your guessing and nothing official from intel papers.

    and two : you are not a CPU designer you are just a writer .

    thanks , waiting for more "tomshardware going down" articles
    Intel has 28C 14nm CPUs...
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  • Deicidium369
    Admin said:
    Queuing the salt truck on this one

    Rumor: Next-Generation Intel Core i7 To Feature 8 Cores With 12-Core Hyperthreading : Read more
    Most likely a typo
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  • InvalidError
    Chung Leong said:
    The other way around seems more sensible. Pipeline stalls are more likely to occur in the small cores due to smaller caches and weaker branch prediction. Disabling SMT in the big cores could meanwhile allow for higher boost frequency.
    While SMT on low-power cores may be ideal for highest efficiency, SMT on the fast cores is ideal for peak throughput. It is extremely unlikely that the minimal boost gains (at stupid power cost) you might get from removing SMT would offset the 30-40% throughput loss. And at only ~5% silicon and power cost, SMT is far more power- and silicon- efficient than high-efficiency cores too.
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  • 1_rick
    InvalidError said:
    Well, if Intel is going big.LITTLE, it wouldn't be surprising if the big cores were full-blown ones with SMT and the little ones were Atom-like without it to save space and power.

    Surely if they were going to do that there'd be mention of it. And it also raises--not begs--the question of why only the i7 would be big.LITTLE.
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