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QOTD: Is Internet Access a Fundamental Right?

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Is Internet access a luxury or a necessity?

In October of last year, Finland became the first country to make broadband a legal right. Come July, every person in Finland will have the right to a one-megabit broadband connection and the Finnish Ministry of Transport and Communications has guaranteed that by 2015, this will be upped to a 100-megabit connection.

Today a new survey shows that 80 percent of people believe that Internet access is a fundamental right. BBC News today reports that a survey of more than 27,000 adults across 26 countries shows that four out of five people believe that Internet should be a basic right. 

Today's question of the day is: do you think Internet access should be a fundamental right?

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tramit 03/08/2010 11:54 PM
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deltatux 03/08/2010 11:54 PM
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I still am not sure if it should be considered a basic human right. However, a minimum of 1 megabit as a law sounds good.

rockinthepe 03/08/2010 11:57 PM
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no, its a luxury, not a necessity like food clothing or shelter.

frozenlead 03/08/2010 11:58 PM
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No. There are dozens of other paths of communication that can be undertaken if the Internet is not present. Sure, the Internet is the most dynamic and useful of all, but it's not necessary for basic and/or civil life. Some may argue that you require it for work and such - but then shouldn't your employer provide you with it during work hours? Does everyone have a right to own a car? No. It's a luxury. We're certainly attached to the Internet a lot, but in no way does that make it necessary, or necessarily a right.

cscott_it 03/08/2010 11:58 PM
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Telephone isn't a right, internet access isn't a right either.

However, for low income families there should be a low-speed discount/coupon. As contradictory as this may sound, I think that children need to grow up somewhat exposed to the internet\computer, or their chances of adapting to non-blue collar job are slim.

groveborn 03/08/2010 11:59 PM
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No, it is not a "basic" right. A basic right is something that cannot be done without. Speech, religion, not being beaten, those are basic rights. Internet access is a luxery.

I'd much rather my country give us free water. Water should be a right. Electricity would also be nice, but that's asking a lot.

kresso 03/09/2010 12:00 PM
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What does "fundamental right" mean? Is that everyone should have it access to obtain it, or everyone should have it for free? I don't think everyone should have it for free, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't all for a 100-megabit connection for everyone. I just don't know if I would say it is a "fundamental right."

Spanky Deluxe 03/09/2010 12:05 PM
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restatement3dofted 03/09/2010 12:10 PM
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It's surprising to me that so many people feel that internet access should be a "fundamental right," along with the right to marry, the right to privacy, freedom of speech, etc. It certainly doesn't fit nicely into the category of rights recognized as "fundamental."

What does this "right" entail? Right to in-home access? If so, who's going to implement a program so that the "right" means something, and who's going to pay for it? Or is it a more general right to access - for example, by using public terminals or libraries? And what does it mean to even *have* a "right" to internet access? Does it mean a right to purchase access, or does it mean a right to have it provided?

It's a nice thought, a right to internet access - effectively, a right to information and communication - but it starts looking a lot less appealing to me when you start thinking about implementation, oversight, and a vastly higher degree of government involvement in what has, historically, been a largely private industry. Obviously government oversight has been increasing as the internet has become a greater part of our daily lives, but it would skyrocket in the event that it was characterized as a "fundamental right." But let's be realistic - that's happening anyway, whether it's a right or not.

tomtompiper 03/09/2010 12:10 PM
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I don't know about what happens where all the posters who said no live, but where I live a lot of jobs are only available on line. I'm not saying that every home should have free internet, but i do think that everybody should have somewhere they can go to access free internet, be that a library or a community centre.

maigo 03/09/2010 12:11 PM
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A right? No.
A requirement for many people? Yes

jhansonxi 03/09/2010 12:13 PM
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The "need" for Internet access is a perception problem. It displaces older mbehaviors and communications like real journalism, social life, economies, exercise, and physical businesses. This seems a barrier to "progress" by people who don't have it. They just don't understand how lucky they are. :D

UbeRveLT 03/09/2010 12:14 PM
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Unfortuately we have become extremely dependant on the internet, simply because it is the one place we can go to get/do almost anything in existance. It is just so useful and simple to anyone that uses it.

I think it should not be a fundamental right because our lives should not revolve around computers and the internet. But if it were taken away now I think you would see a massive drop in the worlds population...

RawOysters 03/09/2010 12:16 PM
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It is becoming a fundamental right with every passing day. As companies move more to electronic data and start doing away with paper, it is forcing everyday people to start paying bills electronically, accessing information electronically sometimes without offering any other alternative. Electricity and other utilities, personal records, etc. are all necessities in life. Once the paper alternative is taken away completely, then the internet becomes a right.

michaelahess 03/09/2010 12:19 PM
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Sounds about right, at least 4/5th's of the worlds population are idiots. Now if only the internet could cure their stupidity.....Oh it can, but they choose to use facebook.

noodlegts 03/09/2010 12:20 PM
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It is not a fundamental right. Freedom of speech is a fundamental right. The internet is something that exists for those who are willing to pay to access it. Internet service is... a service. Not a right.

Next we're going to be debating whether or not McDonalds is a right.

srbruno 03/09/2010 12:23 PM
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Wait Wait Wait.

The questions should be:

"Should the access to information be a fundamental right?" or should information be free?

What about television? The availability of radio and tv as portals to the outside world were free. The hardware was the only cost. Why is this no different, as far as free information access goes? Why didn't the radio broadcasters get told to just broadcast freely at libraries?

On the other side, what about electricity? We can't conduct life without, is that a basic fundamental right? One might suggest it is more than information.

This is a deep topic. love it. :-)

sceen311 03/09/2010 12:23 PM
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Is Internet Access a Fundamental Right?

IF I was to say it wasn't, then the Government or a Private Organization could assume control and deny access based on race, color, religion, iq, gender or any other number of arbitrary discriminations.

So yes, I would say Internet Access is a fundamental right.

Is Internet access a luxury or a necessity?
Necessary for what? Life, business, education, to pay a bill, what?
Necessity for X, if you don't give me X I can't answer the question.

ncarlson 03/09/2010 12:25 PM
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Internet access is not a fundamental right. You must pay for internet access. Fundamental rights can never be bought or sold, or even created or destroyed for that matter. Our Declaration of Independence says it is self-evident that certain rights such as freedom of religion and freedom of the press are unalienable. And I don't think internet access should ever be one of them.

matt87_50 03/09/2010 12:27 PM
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well, according to Ubisoft and alike, its as necessary as electricity...

Anonymous 03/09/2010 12:31 PM
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in my opinion the idea behind all of this is free access to free information and information not controlled by usa or china... different animal, same breed.

the net has grown beyond governments and companies, even futuristic mega-corporations.

The net is the true beginning of the human-kind, where after we can finally leave
our borders behind and harness our Earth for the common good, not for 200Mhz more or for blood diamonds for that matter.

Anonymous 03/09/2010 12:32 PM
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I live in a hut on the top of Mount Everest, now bring me my frickin internet access - I need it to play Assassin's Creed II!

Anonymous 03/09/2010 12:33 PM
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One thing leads to another. if internet access is a right, then having a computer is, then having electricity.

It's so stupid. Noodlegts said it best - internet service is...a service!

tomtompiper 03/09/2010 12:36 PM
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ncarlson :
Internet access is not a fundamental right. You must pay for internet access. Fundamental rights can never be bought or sold, or even created or destroyed for that matter. Our Declaration of Independence says it is self-evident that certain rights such as freedom of religion and freedom of the press are unalienable. And I don't think internet access should ever be one of them.



Your Declaration of Independence has been amended many times, it is not fixed in stone. How can the press be free if the poor are denied the right to read it. At present more and more papers are closing down or moving to online subscription, a trend that is going to accelerate. Where is the unalienable right to a free press without the right of everybody to read it?

cag404 03/09/2010 12:39 PM
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No. This may be OK in Finland, but in the U.S. the framers of the Constitution intended fundamental rights to be those God-given rights inherent to every person. The internet is not given by God...it was given to us by Al Gore.

ruffhouseutah 03/09/2010 12:44 PM
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Something cannot be right that must be provided by someone else.

Duh.

Anonymous 03/09/2010 12:44 PM
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tomtompiper 03/09/2010 12:44 PM
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Anonymous 03/09/2010 12:46 PM
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Obviously, access to any service cannot, by definition, be a inalienable, human right (just like health care, welfare, etc.). There's not any scenario where Internet access can be construed as anything but a luxury or perk.

Freedom of expression != Free services

tomtompiper 03/09/2010 12:46 PM
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MeanSquare 03/09/2010 12:50 PM
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Basic human rights are things that don't require expenditures of money in order to provide. Internet access is a boon, for sure. It's difficult to see how people can work well in our society without it. It's much more difficult to find available jobs, for instance. Nonetheless, every time we try to guarantee some non-essential right it involves the government taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who didn't (while some gets stuck along the way) in order to provide it. Right now, it's worth it to me to have it so I pay for it. If the government "provided" it, some of your money would be going to pay for my access (that I already can afford). Does that make any sense? Also, if the government provides the service, they can justify controlling content as well (as they're doing with broadcast media).

I'd rather see efforts privately fund bringing broadband to areas that currently lack it.


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