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Onlive Cloud-Gaming Offers $10 Flat Fee

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Cloud gaming company Onlive will soon be offering a gaming flat fee.

The "PlayPack" plan is priced at $9.99 per month and allows users to play as much as they want. Onlive calls it "gamer nirvana." It appears that Onlive will be positioned the PlayPack as the standard subscription plan, as opposed to the PlayPass subscription. PlayPass charges from $4 to $50 for games that are played for only 3 or 5 days or are being purchased in full.

The company said that some games will only be available in the PlayPack or in the PlayPass plan. For example the latest NBA 2K11 is just available in the PlayPack. Games are not impacted by plan changes, Onlive said.

PlayPack is scheduled to launch on January 15 and include 40 games. People who are signing up for Onlive now get access to the Beta of the flat fee service free of charge.

Originally announced in 2009, Onlive came online in June of this year. Other than traditional consoles, the game system is entirely cloud-based and uses remote servers to deliver, render, store video game data. The basic Onlive game system sells for $99 and includes one game. 

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el33t 12/03/2010 7:54 PM
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Well, I still playing games on 'real' system mainly because I don't have internet fast enough to experience HD gaming streaming online

jomofro39 12/03/2010 8:02 PM
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anyone here have this? is it nice? feasible end to other consoles?

f-14 12/03/2010 8:06 PM
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sounds great for console gamers, no more console! i'll stick with my p/c tho as i don't play simple games that are made for consoles.

dark_lord69 12/03/2010 8:09 PM
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I am subscribed to it and I got this notification the other day. I have yet to try Onlive. The one time I did try my connection wasn't fast enough.

Grims 12/03/2010 8:11 PM
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We need a review on this unit, and service.

jomofro39 12/03/2010 8:18 PM
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Grims :
We need a review on this unit, and service.


Good idea. How about it Tom's?

ckthecerealkiller 12/03/2010 8:20 PM
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My 3Mb internet is good enough for it. I am surprised at how well it works honestly. The video and latency were above my expectations. The only problem I found was the sound was compressed too much for my tastes. Latency worked ok even on wifi (not so much for multiplayer but I had no trouble during single player).

But it has been a month or so since I tried a game (I still can't resist upgrading my hardware). It is certainly worth a try. The main complaint from everyone is the selection is slow taking off.

neblix 12/03/2010 8:28 PM
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I run like Verizon FIOS with an old laptop that has parts that were good in maybe 2007.

I tried OnLive over Wi-Fi, and I got relatively high settings for around 30 FPS. This service is no joke :P

Anonymous 12/03/2010 8:30 PM
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I've been using the service lately. They recommend having a low latency connection with a download bandwidth of at least 5Mbps. My connection is well above that and the quality in graphics and sound is very difficult to tell that the game isn't installed locally. Lag isn't bad at all. It really all depends on your connection. I can play graphic intensive games all on my netbook if I wanted. It's great!

I hear they are adding a ton of games over the next several months too.

beef623 12/03/2010 8:35 PM
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Just to clarify on the article, the PlayPack plan isn't required to use the service. It gives you access to several games (no new releases unless they change their minds), but you can still buy and play games on OnLive without it.

I haven't used the console yet (it's in the mail), but during the beta of the service I bought and played through Borderlands via OnLive. Overall it's a pretty good experience. I could play with the settings turned up higher on my home pc, but through the onlive service I could play on just about anything (when I played through Borderlands via OnLive it was on a 6 or 7 year old machine that wouldn't have had any hope of running the game natively). Saved games and that kind of thing are all stored on their servers as well so you can pick up and play from any machine. When I was using it, the minimum bandwidth requirement was 5 mbps, not sure if that's still the case or not.

liveonc 12/03/2010 8:55 PM
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Heard the latency was the main problem. Maybe if there were games like "drunken fighter" or "seasick pirates", it might not be that bad. Or some sort of local arcade franchise who was also your ISP.

Parsian 12/03/2010 9:03 PM
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I gave the demo a shot to try out the Splinter Cell Convictions before buying. At that time, 1 month ago, I found it to be a bit laggy and a bit of delay for obvious reason however nothing too noticeable if you are playing single player games. Onlive drops the resolution if you connection drops in bandwidth to compensate.

Overall, judging from the beta, i found it to be surprisingly good considering the fact that you can play such high quality games over the internet.

My connection is 10-15 Mb

mm0ety 12/03/2010 9:05 PM
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For those who r curious...I've been using onlive since release. I bought a full play pass for boarderlands and it played just like a shooter would on a console. Graphic details were at the games highest streaming at 720p though. Lag is not noticeable and still feels like playing on a console. only downfall right now is that they don't have all the new release titles when they come out. and there r no games available that I would like to play or already played on my console. Once the service is able to offer all new releases as they come out then i will be ditching my console and buying their micro-console. hope this was helpful. By the way my internet connection only gets 5mbps download on good days. I think all u need is 3mbps.

mattmock 12/03/2010 9:16 PM
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I tried it (I live in Arkansas) and it really wasn't very great. I played some borderlands so I could compare to playing locally. The settings that the game was being rendered at were actually pretty low. You could play at similar settings on a 2-year old mid-budget machine. Compressing the video stream has a big effect on image quality. When standing still (viewing a slowly changing scene) colors get a bit washed out and some fine detail is lost. When moving things like grass and dirt get turned into green and brown smudges. The input lag is an absolute deal-breaker in a First Person Shooter. I kept overshooting my targets and had to make a correction move every time. This was maddening. In other games the mouse is workable, but feels sluggish.
It seems like it has potential as a demo delivery service, but I don't think the internet is really fast enough for this kind of program yet.

NuclearShadow 12/03/2010 9:20 PM
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I find it sort of strange and amusing that the praises of this are coming from members who posted minutes all after each other three in a row. Who are new members with the exception of beef623. All have very low post counts as well even beef with a amazing two posts and after all this time he
just happens to post on this and nothing else for who knows how long.
Who's willing to bet it was about a Onlive article in the past too?

Either this is a grand case of coincidence or really obvious and horrible advertising. If this is indeed the case of Onlive using a online PR company that they should really consider replacing.

fracture 12/03/2010 9:26 PM
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Better watch out, Comcast might sue them for using up their bandwidth

snoogins 12/03/2010 9:46 PM
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It really does sound pretty cool on paper (or the internet), but I can't imagine playing a fps unless I got zero lag.

Anonymous 12/03/2010 9:46 PM
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It's only for older games, not new games.

tipoo 12/03/2010 9:50 PM
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That seems very fair, IMHO. It would cost about as much as two full PC games a year, or at least two new releases.

kscr7 12/03/2010 9:54 PM
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bandwidth?

chaoski 12/03/2010 9:57 PM
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Personally I haven't tried it and chances are I probably never will.

HOWEVER, if this is a way to get people away from "freedom oppressing" products like consoles and back into PC....AND if this will get PC developers to actually get back where they should be....I'M ALL FOR IT!!!!

Hothr 12/03/2010 10:03 PM
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When I tried OnLive, I found it better than expected. The controls on borderland were a little gummy, but that could have just been the game. At $10 a month, I think it'd be worth trying if there were at least 2 games I wanted to play.

neblix 12/03/2010 10:11 PM
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NuclearShadow :
I find it sort of strange and amusing that the praises of this are coming from members who posted minutes all after each other three in a row. Who are new members with the exception of beef623. All have very low post counts as well even beef with a amazing two posts and after all this time hejust happens to post on this and nothing else for who knows how long.Who's willing to bet it was about a Onlive article in the past too?Either this is a grand case of coincidence or really obvious and horrible advertising. If this is indeed the case of Onlive using a online PR company that they should really consider replacing.



If you're attempting to sound smart right now, it's really not working. :)

I can assure you that I have only used OnLive about 3 times and the WiFi ALWAYS breaks on me. I only like it because I have a crappy computer and this is a better alternative if I'm not allowed to dish out the money to buy a new computer.

Also, I can assure you I've never seen on OnLive article anywhere ever before.

xerroz 12/03/2010 10:20 PM
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I tried it but my ISP throttles my speed constantly so even though Im paying for 15 MBPS, most times I can only see 3 MBPS and you need like 5 MBPS for onlive. At times it works and works just fine. I tried it on my cousin's FIOS connection and it works amazingly, no lag or anything like that and the games run smooth. So if you have Fios and don't have a great machine, this $10 deal is pretty good imo

beef623 12/03/2010 11:05 PM
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NuclearShadow :
I find it sort of strange and amusing that the praises of this are coming from members who posted minutes all after each other three in a row. Who are new members with the exception of beef623. All have very low post counts as well even beef with a amazing two posts and after all this time hejust happens to post on this and nothing else for who knows how long.Who's willing to bet it was about a Onlive article in the past too?Either this is a grand case of coincidence or really obvious and horrible advertising. If this is indeed the case of Onlive using a online PR company that they should really consider replacing.



I don't work for OnLive if that's what you're implying. I was just trying to give my opinion on the system for those who hadn't tried it yet. It's not a perfect system, and I won't be switching to for my primary gaming platform (mostly because my pc runs my games much better), but I can't think of very many real negative points about it. Here are the downsides I can think of: bandwidth requirement is a tad high, no modding, no expansions/DLC (unless they get added to OnLive and you purchase them there), the 3 day and 5 day play passes are a little more expensive than I think they should be.

Now I've used up my post quota for the next year, see you all in 2012.

iamtheking123 12/03/2010 11:11 PM
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I know from experience that you need at least a 6 MBPS connection just to stream compressed 720p videos over the internet without buffering. To be safe you'd need 8. So obviously for people to be able to stream even higher (1440x900+) resolutions, you'd need exponentially more bandwidth. And if you don't want motion blocking with compressed video, even more. So I just don't see how it's possible that they can stream any game in any sort of decent quality.

BulkZerker 12/03/2010 11:17 PM
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GOing to have to agree with NuclearShadow here, the only people saying about how it's good have suspiciously low post counts.

ONlive will work best for anyone who lives near their servers. So they can reap the benefits of low latency. $10 a month though? It's tempting to see how well it works on a crappy connection like mine.

neblix 12/03/2010 11:32 PM
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BulkZerker :
GOing to have to agree with NuclearShadow here, the only people saying about how it's good have suspiciously low post counts.



So it's automatic that anyone new to a website can never be listened to because he's a PR Drone?

jalek 12/03/2010 11:36 PM
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Unlimited play.. until your ISP shuts you down for excessive bandwidth usage. This system was announced a long time ago and the reviews were mixed at best when launched, but something like this should be out there. All you really need is a thin client and an internet connection, try playing games locally on that sort of machine. Some organizations have specifically used machines without 3D cards to avoid game capabilities.

Every school district and corporation in the country will have to block their servers soon, I could see this becoming popular for them.

capt_taco 12/03/2010 11:40 PM
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Oh, good, a system where I'm totally dependent on the whims of my broadband connection, someone else has control over my entire video game library, and I have to pay a monthly fee in order to play video games. Please, tell me, where do I sign up for this?

On top of which, I read earlier this week that the FCC is approving a plan where ISPs can charge metered rates for broadband, based on your bandwidth usage. So if that happens, add another $250 minimum to the monthly cost as you're forced into the "Comcast Platinum" or "AT&T Premium" plan, or whatever the hell they end up calling it.

Yeah, for anyone with half a brain, it's a pretty easy decision to skip this turd on wheels.

capt_taco 12/03/2010 11:43 PM
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capt_taco :
So if that happens, add another $250 minimum to the monthly cost ...



Oh yeah -- in case it wasn't obvious, that's a typo and I meant to put $25. For some reason, it won't let me edit.


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