The State Of Solid State: Computex 2015
Seagate SandForce
Seagate introduced client versions of its SF3000 product series. The SF3500 is divided into three controller configurations: SF3514, SF3504 and SF3524.
SF3700 with eight channels will roll into enterprise products, though we suspect some companies will re-purpose it in enthusiast SSDs. SF3500 is a four-channel design that supports both SATA (AHCI) and PCIe (NVMe). On PCIe, the interface is Gen 2 at up to two lanes.
Until Computex, every demo of the SF3000 series ran with a heat sink over the FCBGA controller. This was the first demo with power optimizations in place. In the image above, the SF3500 controller is playing nine FHD videos. It's warm to the touch, but not hot, and nowhere near the >100 degrees C that Samsung's XP941 reached under heavy workloads.
We managed to track down the full specifications for the three SF3000-series controllers:
Specifications | SF3514 | SF3504 | SF3524 |
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Applications | Mainstream SATA Client | Entry PCIe Client | Enthusiast SATA / PCIe Client |
DuraClass Technology | SF3000 | ||
Architecture | 1TB | 1TB | 1TB |
Host Interface | SATA 6Gb/s | PCIe 2.0 x2 (NVMe) | PCIe 2.0 x2 (NVMe)SATA 6Gb/s |
Max Capacity Supported | 1TB | 1TB | 1TB |
Controller Clock Frequency | 275MHz | 275MHz | 300MHz |
Performance | |||
Sequential Read | Up to 550 MB/s | Up to 900 MB/s | Up to 900 MB/s |
Sequential Write | Up to 450 MB/s | Up to 525 MB/s | Up to 525 MB/s |
Random Read | Up to 100,000 IOPS | Up to 130,000 IOPS | Up to 130,000 IOPS |
Random Write | Up to 80,000 IOPS | Up to 90,000 IOPS | Up to 90,000 IOPS |
Random 70% Read Mix | Up to 80,000 IOPS | Up to 120,000 IOPS | Up to 120,000 IOPS |
Flash Memory Support | MLC, TLC, 3D from top flash memory manufacturersFour channels up to 400 MT/s1x nm, 1y nm, 1z nm, ONFi 2.0/3.0, Toggle 1.0/2.0 | ||
Sector Size Support | 512b | 4KB | 4KB (PCIe NVMe)512b (SATA) |
Security | Dual AES-256 EncryptionTCG Opal 2.0IEEE-1667Windows eDrive | ||
Reliability | Shield Error CorrectionFull end-to-end CRC Protection | ||
Data Protection | RAISE 1 +Fractional RAISE | ||
Package | 401-ball FCBGA 11x18 mm | ||
Compliance | RoHSHalogen FreeGreen |
PCIe 2.0 x2 and SATA 6Gb/s obviously limit performance, but the SF3000 controller uses a modular design that SandForce claims can be built up quickly. Interface limits on the architecture's front-end can be addressed through a higher-performing module down the road when the market demands it.
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blackmagnum The time is ripe to change your old spinning catastrophe and embrace the now of SSD.Reply -
Vivecss So have they fixed the data loss if not connected to electricity for more than a week thing?Reply -
synphul Spinning catastrophe? My hdd doesn't perform much slower than my ssd for 90% of tasks, the biggest improvement was installing windows. For that I was impressed. An hdd shouldn't be a catastrophe, if it is I'd strongly suggest a better brand/model. Installed an ssd on a workstation and of all the upgrades it was the component I was least happy with. The new cpu and ram upgrade were by far more impressive. Not that I'm 'unhappy' with it, it is a little snappier though not enough to make me rush right out to buy another one for my other rig. If another 240gb ssd goes on sale for $60 like the first one I bought I might consider it. Pcie m.2 look appealing and great on paper but I suppose it would be of greater benefit to someone who is suffering a bottlenecked system due to storage in the first place.Reply -
CaedenV So have they fixed the data loss if not connected to electricity for more than a week thing?
Yes, about 5 years ago.
SSDs are still no archival media, and they will corrupt after a year or two without power. But if you are the sort of person who travels a lot and unplugs your PC for 2-3 months at a time then it is not a real concern anymore. -
wtfxxxgp So have they fixed the data loss if not connected to electricity for more than a week thing?
I'm so out of touch that I didn't even know that was "a thing"
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Vivecss So have they fixed the data loss if not connected to electricity for more than a week thing?
Yes, about 5 years ago.
SSDs are still no archival media, and they will corrupt after a year or two without power. But if you are the sort of person who travels a lot and unplugs your PC for 2-3 months at a time then it is not a real concern anymore.
Really? 5 years ago? Because I've gone on vacation for about a month and my Windows wont even start anymore. And that was about a year ago. Heard a rumor that the 3D stacking technology thing managed to eliminate this problem and i was waiting for some more good news about that before buying a new SSD.
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CRamseyer Spinning catastrophe? My hdd doesn't perform much slower than my ssd for 90% of tasks, the biggest improvement was installing windows. For that I was impressed. An hdd shouldn't be a catastrophe, if it is I'd strongly suggest a better brand/model. Installed an ssd on a workstation and of all the upgrades it was the component I was least happy with. The new cpu and ram upgrade were by far more impressive. Not that I'm 'unhappy' with it, it is a little snappier though not enough to make me rush right out to buy another one for my other rig. If another 240gb ssd goes on sale for $60 like the first one I bought I might consider it. Pcie m.2 look appealing and great on paper but I suppose it would be of greater benefit to someone who is suffering a bottlenecked system due to storage in the first place.
A $60 240GB SSD is the reason why you don't feel a big performance increase over your HDD.
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WyomingKnott "Really? 5 years ago? Because I've gone on vacation for about a month and my Windows wont even start anymore. And that was about a year ago."Reply
But how old was the SSD? The model, not the particular one that you own. -
synphul It was on sale. At the time, ocz vector 150's were going for $180. It stays neck and neck with the samsung 840 evo (850's weren't even available yet) and the two trade blows a bit. The vector 150 has slightly slower random reads and the samsung has slightly slower write speeds. It was chosen for a workstation doing content creation with larger files where write speed was preferred. Maybe people feel such a huge difference over their hdd's because they're using junk hdd's? My wd re4 gives me no issues. The only time aside from bootup that ssd's seem to have a huge performance gain is during testing where a longer sustained data transfer is occurring. Something most people won't encounter under normal use of a pc, instead it will more than likely operate in small bursts. So technically, it was a $180 ssd using the newer 19nm toshiba nand. Hardly a junk ssd.Reply -
CRamseyer When you said it I was thinking something along the lines of a V300 with async flash.Reply