System Builder Marathon, Q2 2014: Our Enthusiast PC
Power And Temperature
Both of the platforms tested for this article employ an 84 W host processor and graphics cards with 250 W board power ratings. I would have been surprised if there was a more significant difference in their consumption under load.
There isn't, though. For the most part, both machines look pretty similar. More intriguing is that last quarter's combination of parts registered higher idle power use.
Our thermal readings are comparable, too. At least as far as the host processors are concerned, this isn't a surprise since I had Cooler Master Hyper 212 heat sinks sitting on them both.
The GPU temperatures (black is idle; green is load) also appear somewhat similar. Perhaps the biggest deviation is that the GeForce in last quarter's machine idled measurably cooler. In fact, the tuned version reflects the best-looking temperature. Remember, though, that we had to manually increase the GeForce card's fan speed to overclock.
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BilinearCheese I have to say guys, that enthusiast level build is terrible. Apevia case? Turbo Duo 290? NO SSD? Come on. For 16 bucks less I put together a system WITH an SSD, a decent case, a much better 290, and a better motherboard/cpu cooler. Hell, I even managed to get a color scheme together for it as well:Reply
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FRyNgs
"Terrible" = same CPU, cooler, graphics card, and equal benchmark performance?
The case we chose really doesn't matter, as the first page of article points out. Case/optical drive is completely subjective. That's exactly why we've separated the performance parts price from case/optical/OS.
By the way, are you just assuming Apevia its bad because you prefer other well-known brands? It did a fantastic job for the purposes of this article, so other than brand, what's your issue with it? Is brand the same problem you have with the 290? Because it's cooler is quite good.
Speaking of coolers, the Hyper 212 EVO is virtually the 212 plus with a different fan. Is this really the huge difference you're implying it is?
You're also specing it out two months after we did, with lower prices. An SSD would have been great, but two months ago when we ordered there was no room in the budget, and we weren't willing to sacrifice the 290.
Bottom line, you're being a little sensationalist about picking nits. -
itzsnypah When overclocking the CPU are you leaving the uncore coupled to the core multiplier or uncoupled and set at x34/36? You averaging nearly 1.3v for only 4.3Ghz is very poor.Reply -
I have to question the need for Z97 mobo. If you go with the Haswell and not the Haswell update and you do not include M.2 SSD, then why go with Z97? If you are choosing the Z97 to have a upgrade path, you should also go for the Devil's Canyon cpu. Budget-wise it is a really bad idea to even think about going for D.C. Haswell chip later on.Reply
The ssd gives you an easily felt sensation of speed every time you boot. Just got an ssd myself like 2 months ago. Any other go-fast parts come secondary. Ditch the Z97 and the ODD and you could squeeze in a SSD. -
envy14tpe @BilinearCheese. I believe all parts for these toms' builds have to be from Newegg. So, try building that way.Reply -
BilinearCheese @BilinearCheese. I believe all parts for these toms' builds have to be from Newegg. So, try building that way.
How is this the best suggested build for the money if you're only locking it to one retailer? That's...kinda silly
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Crashman
Because if we get all our parts from Newegg, it's Newegg's money? Because, when Newegg pays for the parts, we can afford to give the entire systems away?@BilinearCheese. I believe all parts for these toms' builds have to be from Newegg. So, try building that way.
How is this the best suggested build for the money if you're only locking it to one retailer? That's...kinda silly
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envy14tpe Because if we get all our parts from Newegg, it's Newegg's money? Because, when Newegg pays for the parts, we can afford to give the entire systems away?
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No one will ever question your parts selection ever again!! Maybe add a side note on price page that all parts are from/ must be bought on Newegg. -
BilinearCheese Because if we get all our parts from Newegg, it's Newegg's money? Because, when Newegg pays for the parts, we can afford to give the entire systems away?
:p
All newegg, still cheaper with better components:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pj7bCJ
What's the next rule, no rebates? -
Crashman All newegg, still cheaper with better components:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pj7bCJ
What's the next rule, no rebates?
No mail-in rebates because they usually disappear before we can publish and, because when you have $100 you can't buy a $149 part that has a $50 MIR :)
Instant rebates and sales are fine because when the discount on one part disappears, the discount on another part appears.
BTW, I like the look of your case. I never understood what the deal was with don and ugly cases, but he's Canadian so I know better than to ask. -
BilinearCheese No mail-in rebates because they usually disappear before we can publish and, because when you have $100 you can't buy a $149 part that has a $50 MIR :)
Instant rebates and sales are fine because when the discount on one part disappears, the discount on another part appears.
Even with that in mind, my second build without rebates totals 1178. Changing the motherboard to a z87 Extreme3 (because z97 isn't a benefit if you're not going for haswell refresh or an ssd) and it's 3 bucks more than the build listed.