48 Raids Carried Out in File-Sharing Investigation
European police yesterday carried out raids across the continent as part of a file-sharing investigation. One of the addresses visited by police was the ISP linked to whisteblower website Wikileaks and file sharing site the Pirate Bay.
The AFP reports that European police yesterday raided 48 locations in 14 countries as part of a two-year investigation run by Belgian police. Of the 48 addresses, seven were located in Sweden and one was at ISP PRQ, which is home to servers used by the Pirate Bay and Wikileaks. However, Swedish police say the raid had nothing to do with Wikileaks.
TorrentFreak cites a PRQ representative who says five police showed up with questions relating to just two IP addresses.
"At 9:00 this morning, five policemen were here," PRQ’s Mikael Viberg explained to TF. "They were interested in who were using two IP addresses from 2009 and onwards. We have no records of our clients but we’re handing over the e-mail addresses for those behind the IPs. However, it’s rare that our clients have mail addresses that are traceable."
Four people are apparently being questioned on suspicion of breaching copyright law and servers and computers have been seized in Sweden. TF reports that the subject of the investigation is the Warez Scene, the network of sites at the top of the so-called 'Piracy Pyramid'.
A source later told the website that each raid was carried out in a similar fashion.
"In pretty much all of the cases the police just walked into the datacenters, proceeded with warrants, more or less unplugged the boxes and left with them," the person said. "They knew very well exactly what they were looking for and this was a highly coordinated attack."
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So, is anybody starting to sweat a little?
Well, the comment was meant to be lighthearted but I see that I have offended many people. So let me continue. To all those who thumbed me down, I beseech you to please all get together and write down your divine moral code so that we may all bask in the absolute purity that is you. You buy all of your software, well fantastic for you. Would you like a medal or a chest to pin it on? I am sure that you follow all other rules to the letter as well, never ever have you sped or driven even after a single drink, you all declare extra income from having sold something no matter what the dollar value or in anyway ever done anything against any law as by your attitudes from your postings, you are as pure as newly fallen snow.
Again for the sake of all humanity, tell how you became so enlightened and just. If there is some reason you can't tell us, then may we bask in the glow that must emanate from your very body. Your mere words scribed onto the lowliest of of parchment would in a heartbeat become more holy than any teachings written by anyone. The Analects, The Koran, The Old and New Testament, and The Talmud would all be proven to be false as you people are the Truth.
So perfect that we can lo longer consider you even human, You have become Deity's or even Demigods. Ah, what views you must enjoy from up there. It is indeed a bitter realization that I, a mere flawed mortal, will never be able to attain your majesty. I shall however somehow manage to deal with this bane, maybe by accepting that some people are just born superior. It will be difficult, but I will try.
Hopefully they shut down these sites and catch those involved, for the sake of all the people that actually pay for the things they want rather than steal it off from the internet.
Let all the pirating fanboys thieves beging the down-voting
So, is anybody starting to sweat a little?
No, do you have a reason to?
Piracy will NEVER be stopped. When the world is run by a single government, maybe, but pirates will continue to set up shop around the world where copyright laws take time to find them. Its inherently in human nature, these people do it for fun. They do it to spread software only for the purpose of doing it. Some don't even care about sharing, but rather do it just to show they can crack the software.
Spend money finding child rapists, murderers, and fixing our economy. One less dollar to Microsoft or Blizzard entertainment or Will Smith isn't going to kill anyone.
Dang 48 raids. Who's tanking?
It is wrong to have payed products in the first place.
The monetary system has blinded everyone, it's time to wake up people !
So, is anybody starting to sweat a little?
No, I buy my software
Piracy will NEVER be stopped. When the world is run by a single government, maybe, but pirates will continue to set up shop around the world where copyright laws take time to find them. Its inherently in human nature, these people do it for fun. They do it to spread software only for the purpose of doing it. Some don't even care about sharing, but rather do it just to show they can crack the software.Spend money finding child rapists, murderers, and fixing our economy. One less dollar to Microsoft or Blizzard entertainment or Will Smith isn't going to kill anyone.
What makes you think they are trying to stop piracy?
software, money and the internet come so tricky now a days.
I seriously have no idea why are you voting down my comment above...
Do you people really like this work with super-rich and dirt-poor people ? How long do you think the rich will be able to steal everything ? How long until they steal the flesh out of our bones?
It would be much better for everyone if money didn't exist at all, and everything ( including software ) was open-source, and "free".
There would be no need for armies, police, raids, no thieves, no pirates of any kind ( as there is nothing to steal, since everything is available to everyone )
Google "The Venus Project" if you want to know what I'm talking about.
And just earlier today some European was talking all smug about America losing their rights for having our phones traced. Looks like the foot is on the other foot!
I seriously have no idea why are you voting down my comment above...Do you people really like this work with super-rich and dirt-poor people ? How long do you think the rich will be able to steal everything ? How long until they steal the flesh out of our bones?It would be much better for everyone if money didn't exist at all, and everything ( including software ) was open-source, and "free".There would be no need for armies, police, raids, no thieves, no pirates of any kind ( as there is nothing to steal, since everything is available to everyone )Google "The Venus Project" if you want to know what I'm talking about.
Or we could just google Communism and get the same results. Hmmmm.
You don't have to be pro-piracy to be against police raids against file sharing sites.
I seriously have no idea why are you voting down my comment above...Do you people really like this work with super-rich and dirt-poor people ? How long do you think the rich will be able to steal everything ? How long until they steal the flesh out of our bones?It would be much better for everyone if money didn't exist at all, and everything ( including software ) was open-source, and "free".There would be no need for armies, police, raids, no thieves, no pirates of any kind ( as there is nothing to steal, since everything is available to everyone )Google "The Venus Project" if you want to know what I'm talking about.
Apparently you don't realize that socialism doesn't really work in the real world (humans are greedy)
What is wrong with you people? Raiding pirates? What happened to child molesters? Rapists? Murderers? Osama Bin Laden???? The mothafu***** Colombian drug cartels? You got the balls to carry out raids? Try doing it in the Jungle, where you could actually save some human lives from slavery. They are just a bunch of bullies. When it comes to serious business and some serious, bad mofos, these hero cops shut their mouths.
Just because some are combating software piracy doesn't mean that others can't fight whatever you posted above.
It would be much better for everyone if money didn't exist at all, and everything ( including software ) was open-source, and "free".There would be no need for armies, police, raids, no thieves, no pirates of any kind ( as there is nothing to steal, since everything is available to everyone )
If there was no money we'd be back to the barter system, wherein you could arbitrarily price items based on your mood today. Also if everything was "free" and results of innovation and research were never paid for, there would be no incentive to create new stuff. As bad as capitalism sounds, it has allowed humanity to progress at phenomenal rates.
All these technology and benefits we enjoy today are almost always influenced by money.
Oh yes, excuse me, I forgot that this site is mostly visited by brainwashed americans who belive that it's "normal" and "natural" for the police to come into your house and steal your computers whenever they feel like it (actually, when ordered by your rich shepherds)
Nevermind me, going back to my little "communist" side of the earth... you keep enjoying your little "land of freedom" consisting of 9 to 5 slave jobs and 100.000$ debts.
Lawl Wave, no need to get into freeking country debate.
Plus it shouldn't be thought of as pirating, think of it as failed attempts to protect software. Like Microsoft "Accidentally" leaking out the master key to Windows 7 Ultimate. Obviously thats a security fail right there.
Dang 48 raids. Who's tanking?
I'll get my Pally...he hasn't seen action like that in quite some time. Time to break out that leet gear sitting in the vault.
When I read the title, my first thought was this was going to be a hard drive benchmark test... as in 48 Redundant Array of Independent Disks setups... sadly, I was disappointed. Ah well...
Oh yes, excuse me, I forgot that this site is mostly visited by brainwashed americans who belive that it's "normal" and "natural" for the police to come into your house and steal your computers whenever they feel like it (actually, when ordered by your rich shepherds)Nevermind me, going back to my little "communist" side of the earth... you keep enjoying your little "land of freedom" consisting of 9 to 5 slave jobs and 100.000$ debts.
So, instead of a counter argument concerning his points, you're going to say that? It would appear that you're the one who's brainwashed... You know, if you had used actual logic, it could have been an interesting debate...
Also:
The raids happened in Europe - with probable cause - genius.
Also: You say there would be no thieves? lol... As long as there is stored property, there will be crime and wars. If you look back as history, the first time war (and crime with it) came into existence was when people started farming. There would be raids on food stores. There was no money back then, yet there was still fighting.
Now THAT'S a DDoS attack!
software, money and the internet come so tricky now a days.
So because you don't agree with the price they charge it makes it wrong to crackdown on it? It's a free market, no one makes you buy anything you don't want. Music isn't a need. People obviously buy it if they continue to charge that amount.
And saying they are wasting their time on "little" things like this is like saying why are we wasting our time with the hungry in America when we should be helping 3rd World countries, just because the battle is not on the extreme of one spectrum doesn't make it unimportant.
go pirates go, lol
About time the went after them. Moral of the story, if you cannot afford the product, save your money and buy it. Argue it any way you want, it is copyrighted and licensed by the companies that made the software. No pay, no play. Can't pay for your hobby......find a new one like running, knitting, finger painting, yodeling. Those things are free, not professionally designed software.
While I support the whole "give us gamers what we deserve" thing, getting mad because they are cracking down on something illegal doesn't fly with me.
I wish they would quit trying to stop piracy.
I don't support it, if I can't buy something, I don't.
However, the enforcement of anti-piracy laws is ridiculous. It's like prohibition- everywhere you look someone has some illegal alcohol/files. You can't stop it because there are just too many ways to hide and more people will step up to replace those taken down.
Plus, this really has a very small effect on most people's day to day lives. Stopping crime in the streets would be a much more useful occupation.
I seriously have no idea why are you voting down my comment above...Do you people really like this work with super-rich and dirt-poor people ? How long do you think the rich will be able to steal everything ? How long until they steal the flesh out of our bones?It would be much better for everyone if money didn't exist at all, and everything ( including software ) was open-source, and "free".There would be no need for armies, police, raids, no thieves, no pirates of any kind ( as there is nothing to steal, since everything is available to everyone )Google "The Venus Project" if you want to know what I'm talking about.
... the raids? it's just corporate desperation...
... and by the way... no pirated record will beat a good live performance... in a way pirated or shared music is a good ad campaign for the next tour... artic monkeys comes to mind... no pirated movie will beat a excellent experience in a movie theater... no proprietary software will beat the innovation of free software...
I downvoted you for your utter stupidity.Catching pirates does nothing, prices on software will remain the same. Your argument about "for the sake of all of us who pay" is completly invalid. Piracy is such a small and insignificant ammount compared to the actual number of units sold, that the supply/demand remains very much un-elastic. Have you noticed, no matter what the level of piracy, large companies still charge inhumane ammounts for their product... and small companies which suffer very little piracy becouse people see them as the underdogs charge very little for their product...guess what, those large companies with the better product don't mind the piracy, overall it doesn't affect them. Digital media is a no-lose business, you don't suffer anything from someone pirating your stuff since you don't have a complicated supply of materiels to manage and process into that product, digitaly distributing a product on a cd- 1penny, if that, online... server/electricity/bandwidth costs, less then a fraction of a penny per copy. piracy? neligible. Authorities only go after such pirates on the moral-extermists urging, instead of catching muderers, rapists and other even less desirable groups/persons.Please exuse my spelling and grammar, im on a laptop with a cruddy keyboard at 10:00 pm in a all-night pizza resturant.
I got bored and just skimmed but I saw all-night pizza so I gave you a thumbs up for that.
Yes you could do both. Or better yet, instead of wasting resources for raids of some geeks/gamers/torrent users houses/basements/etc. use those same resources for the list of things I have mentioned before.
That's flawed logic. Your way of thinking can be applied to this situation: Instead of the police keeping your neighborhood in check and safe, why don't they just do the things listed above. Who cares if you get scammed on some deal or your brother gets his arm cut off when there are mass murderers and terrorists out there!
The reason why there is a large police force with many specialized fields is so that we can focus more more than one issue at a time
read a quote above posted by kuharski:
And saying they are wasting their time on "little" things like this is like saying why are we wasting our time with the hungry in America when we should be helping 3rd World countries, just because the battle is not on the extreme of one spectrum doesn't make it unimportant.
Operation Buccaneer in 2001 was a complete fail and temporary lock down for the piracy world, this raid honestly isn't nearly as impressive. Feds in Europe are puffing their chests out a little too far trying to sucker the world this is a "huge" taken down.
I just wish I could have pirated some of my college textbooks. Those are the real criminals!
>One less dollar to Microsoft or Blizzard entertainment or Will Smith isn't going to kill anyone.
That's a very glib and misguided way of looking at the current situation. First, it's not one less dollar -- piracy to buy ratios for music are somewhere in the range of 30:1 or greater. Second, I know plenty of struggling independent artists who have seen their already precarious incomes just collapse due to ripping.