Benchmark Results: Batman: Arkham City
The low minimum frame rates we see in Batman: Arkham City are a result of drops in between benchmark scenes; they don't reflect real-world gameplay, as you can see from the frame rate-over-time chart. We run our first test without MSAA, but with FXAA enabled to smooth out some of the jagged lines and edges.
The GeForce GTX 650 Ti does very well, beating out all of its competition except for the Radeon HD 7850 and GeForce GTX 660 Ti.
Switching out FXAA for MSAA applies more of a load to the memory subsystem, allowing AMD's Radeon HD 6870 to pass the GeForce GTX 650 Ti. The rest of the field trails Nvidia's new value-oriented board, though the GeForce GTX 560 and Radeon HD 6850 aren't far behind.
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Awesome, finally something that mainstream budget users can afford from Nvidia, been waiting for ages!
40% slower than the 7850 while costing 10-20% less, and 10% faster than the 7770 while costing 25% more.
That looks like a fail to me, and don't even get me started on how late this is.
Would be awesome if you would include HD 5770 in benchmarks vs this one too, sure its old card but would love to see how powerfull is that one compered to this one.
Why would you not include the GTX 660 Ti in the tests? After all, the 650 Ti and 660 Ti should be the options of the day for upgrades - why not compare them?
nVidia, you really need to stop gimping your bandwidth!
Seriously, such a waste of silicon that could perform quite a bit better if you just gave it a little more breathing room....
I assume the place where it cripple the 650TI is the 16ROP as well as the 128bit bus. But the 16ROP is probably the biggest bottleneck of the card, this is the only place where u cant be fix by any OCing at all.
With 128bit bus, they could have just leave the memory speed @ 6GHz. 5400 is pretty much ruin the thing.
Edit: btw, this is probably one of the most useful review I see for a while. 6870/6850/560/460/7770 are all there, with benchmark of AA on and off. thumbs up for u author!
40% slower than the 7850 while costing 10-20% less, and 10% faster than the 7770 while costing 25% more.That looks like a fail to me, and don't even get me started on how late this is.
The HD7850 and GTX 650ti are essentially the same price on New Egg.
another PhysX card I suppose..
slightly too weak for a dedicated in my book.
I said my book as in my opinion.
Why would you not include the GTX 660 Ti in the tests? After all, the 650 Ti and 660 Ti should be the options of the day for upgrades - why not compare them?
Because comparing cards in the ~150 dollar range to a card thats +280 dollars is asinine?
AnandTech has already released an article covering AMD officially dropping the price of the 1GB 7850 to $169 for the fall season
This means we will easily see $150 or less after rebates and officially makes this Nvidia 650ti product a total fail. I see no reason to purchase this.
Can the power plane of the of the diminutive 5.75" x 4" PCB can support the 100W of power? Could it result in PCB delamination over time?
Because comparing cards in the ~150 dollar range to a card thats +280 dollars is asinine?
Not if you seriously would like to know what the performance difference was. Look at the current Video Card ratings - they cover from very low to extreme high - because people would like to know.
So - Right now, I'm looking at buying a $300 660 Ti, but if the 650 Ti can come within 20% of the performance, I might not drop the extra cash on it. But without trying to find a common benchmark between the two, there's no way to tell. Looks like I get to go benchmark hunting.
further read on several reviews said that most if not all of 650ti use 6GHz hynix RAM. So why are they clocking it @ 5400? 128bit + 6Ghz is not going to hurt 660.
Nvidia are doing stupid thing here
How about EVGA's Super Superclocked Impersonation of the 650Ti? I really want Tom's Hardware to take a look at that one.
Found a comparative benchmark between 650ti and 660ti - in the GPGPU benchmarks. The games tests all have different settings between the 650ti and 660ti reviews, so they aren't a true comparison.
I used this as the 660ti review to compare benchmarks against for the games : http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,3279.html
Not if you seriously would like to know what the performance difference was. Look at the current Video Card ratings - they cover from very low to extreme high - because people would like to know.So - Right now, I'm looking at buying a $300 660 Ti, but if the 650 Ti can come within 20% of the performance, I might not drop the extra cash on it. But without trying to find a common benchmark between the two, there's no way to tell. Looks like I get to go benchmark hunting.
Found a comparative benchmark between 650ti and 660ti - in the GPGPU benchmarks. The games tests all have different settings between the 650ti and 660ti reviews, so they aren't a true comparison. I used this as the 660ti review to compare benchmarks against for the games : http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,3279.html
The 660 non-Ti has a roughly 50% lead on average over the 650 Ti. This 650 Ti obviously doesn't come anywhere near the 660 Ti. You shouldn't need the 660 Ti in this to know that.
40% slower than the 7850 while costing 10-20% less, and 10% faster than the 7770 while costing 25% more.That looks like a fail to me, and don't even get me started on how late this is.
This. Nailed it. Nothing more needs to be said.
Why is the Max TDP on this 110W? Makes no sense, with power use being identical to a 650. Might these be made w/o an extra power connector?
Hopefully, the GT700s will be based off more than 2 GPUs.......
so they won't be as late as this gen because they had to collect enough bad chips