HP, Hynix Not Commercializing ReRAM Until 4Q13

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  • tanjo
    Replace SSD, flash, yes... and maybe DRAM for gadgets. Unfortunately, memristors, like flash have write endurance. So, no, I don't want that in my desktop's RAM slot.
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  • Interesting, can't wait! :D
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  • ojas
    That's all good, just give me my DDR4-2800 in time for Haswell and i'll be happy. :)
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  • Estix
    tanjoReplace SSD, flash, yes... and maybe DRAM for gadgets. Unfortunately, memristors, like flash have write endurance. So, no, I don't want that in my desktop's RAM slot.A good point, but, personally, I don't care about write endurance, so long as the expected life of the component is at least as long as the service life of the device.
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  • alidan
    tanjoReplace SSD, flash, yes... and maybe DRAM for gadgets. Unfortunately, memristors, like flash have write endurance. So, no, I don't want that in my desktop's RAM slot.
    for me, depends entirely on how many cycles it has.

    seeing as you could do a fullshutdown to full windows boot exactly how you left it in less than 10 seconds, im at least intrested, granted, it needs to either have a few million writes, or be a backup for ram, like if i "shut down" the computer, ram gets dumped to that ram, and it boots from that ram while everything is moved to normal ram.
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  • Mathos
    If it's usable to replace SRam the endurance is likely going to be pretty high. Considering Sram is what they use for Cache memory in most processors.
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  • ethanolson
    Well... everything has endurance. I hope the ReRAM has very high endurance so I can use it for 5+ years.
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  • A Bad Day
    tanjoReplace SSD, flash, yes... and maybe DRAM for gadgets. Unfortunately, memristors, like flash have write endurance. So, no, I don't want that in my desktop's RAM slot.
    There are plans of pushing memristors into other microchips to replace transistors, possibly including CPU and GPU.
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  • nurgletheunclean
    tanjoReplace SSD, flash, yes... and maybe DRAM for gadgets. Unfortunately, memristors, like flash have write endurance. So, no, I don't want that in my desktop's RAM slot.I have serious doubts their DRAM implementation would include desktop system memory replacement. There's no way it will be fast enough. Consider that DDR3 1600 is 12,800MB/s vs a fast toggle NAND is ~60MB/s If they could get even close to 5% that level of performance from ReRAM, they would release it as soon as possible since you wouldn't need any complicated controller (marvell/sandforce) to fully saturate a SATA3 interface. A USB3 thumb drive would be as fast at the fastest SSDs today.

    And for the people thinking that write endurance wouln't be an issue for system memory you are flat out wrong. DDR's number of write operations are far more frequent than disk writes, you don't "feel" them because they happen so fast. Typically you would write to memory 10x+ as often as a disk, as all disk reads are going to be memory writes, as well as all the different transformations, moves, copies, decompression, etc all are memory write operations.
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  • tanjo
    @nurgletheunclean:
    I've read that Elpida made a ReRAM prototype (64Mb) with a write speed of 10ns (which they say is 10x faster than the best NAND) with a million times write endurance.

    Then again no, I really don't want that as RAM. But they do obliterate flash hands down. Ultra low power plus x times faster. The problem is compatibility with current devices with flash based card readers. But upcoming tablets/smartphones can use this as internal storage no problem. (And maybe make it viable to turn off tablets if they can make it boot under 10 secs :))

    I wonder what the price/GB would be?
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