AMD: Xbox 720 to Have Avatar-level Graphics
We've been hearing snippets of information about the Xbox 720 over the last few weeks and now AMD has put its two cents in.
We've already heard talk of DirectX 11 and an E3 2012 launch for the newest Xbox console and now AMD is adding that the console will be capable of producing graphics with Avatar-levels of detail. Referring to the smash-hit movie that put 3D on the map, Examiner cites director of ISV relationships at AMD, Neal Robison, as saying Xbox fans have a lot to be excited about.
Aside from stunning graphics, Robison is quoted as saying that the next-generation console from Microsoft will boast A.I. and physics capabilities that will allow for every pedestrian in a games like Grand Theft Auto or Saints Row 'to have a totally individual mentality'. That means no more of the mob mentality that sees everyone just running away screaming, each character will do something different.
The Examiner is using August's issue of Official Xbox Magazine as a source for the information, but AMD has not confirmed that it is working on the Xbox 720. Similarly, Microsoft has not confirmed any details regarding the new system. Elsewhere in the market, Nintendo just introduced the next generation Wii, the Wii U, which is scheduled for launch next year. Sony is also rumored to be working on the PS4, which is also expected in 2012.
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While this doesn't seem out of reach at all, considering the video chipsets out right now, and what is can still come, there is just something about this article......I can't put my finger on it........
Its about time...
i really dont care how much they are over exaggerating on the graphical improvements just as long as they are NOTICEABLE!!!!
Was the recent Unreal engine demo that required Tri-SLI GTX580's even Avatar quality? I can't imagine the new Xbox having that much graphics horsepower if it's coming out within the next two years unless it's going to cost more than the PS3 did at launch. I'd be impressed if it had more horsepower than a single GTX580 if it launches by holiday 2012 at $400 or less.
What...?
There are NO games that have come out or are coming out in the near future (next year) with graphics that would even compare to Avatar's CGI.
So they are going to put a dx11 card in the new console. Where's the surprise here? It was announced by lord iD himself John Carmack that pc's were a generation ahead of consoles earlier this year or late last year.
What I find surprising is that they claim it will do avatar level of graphics... did they mean avatar the pc game? cause Im pretty sure that the avatar cgi was done on huge server farms not a console the size of a laptop. They are also claiming it will do physics... so are we now to be forced into choosing bullet or physx based on the game we buy? Way to get the kids hopes up AMD.
Yeah..... right.....
It took more than a months on a big server farm to render avatar.
It's going to be at least a decade before consumer decices can render that sort of graphics in real time.
@Yargnit: Consoles are always better at utilizing the full potential of their hardware, thus Avatar level graphics might not be out of reach for the next Xbox.
It's hyperbole
Saw this yesterday. Will say the same thing. AMD shot it self in the foot. Or even better. They took a saw and sawed off their entier legg.
EDIT: AMD: Xbox 720 to Have Avatar-level Graphics (When rendering one tree...and maybe a small insect...at 800*600 resolution)
I think they referred to the Avatar game on the iOS or maybe from the PSP.
@Yargnit: Consoles are always better at utilizing the full potential of their hardware, thus Avatar level graphics might not be out of reach for the next Xbox.
True, but your talking Crysis on a Nintendo64 level of optimization if Avatar quality graphics isn't a huge exaggeration. We're still a few years from real-time ray-tracing, which basically means their statement is impossible without any further information even needed.
This is almost the exact same thing they said about the PS2 only replace Avatar with Toy Story. I think the PS3 comes pretty close to Toy Story level of graphics... so 2 more console generations might actually pull off Avatar type graphics in real time. Impressive.
Hell............It's about Time
EDIT: AMD: Xbox 720 to Have Avatar-level Graphics (When rendering one tree...and maybe a small insect...at 800*600 resolution)
Lets wait for the console, then we judge, shall we?
If this is true, then it's about time. I wonder what card it will have and what price it would be at launch.
From the sounds of it, atleast a 4870x2?
Sound like the same hype we all heard when the current consoles where about to come out. Different words same hype.
Heard this before. I'll believe it when I see it. Next gen consoles always get overhyped before they debut. Maybe if they didn't overhype them soo much before they come out and make it more realistic on what people can expect people wouldn't be disappointed.
I think what they meant was Avatar SCRIPT-Level details.
Lets wait for the console, then we judge, shall we?
Why? The isn't a question that it can't be done. Even if cost wasn't a factor, even if size and heat weren't factors, it would be impossible.
It's obvious that the consoles are not going away, just the opposite. This tells me I will not be building a new gaming rig, ever and will move to a 720 or PS4 (have to compare them) instead. Cheaper anyway.
I'm pretty sure will not make the same mistake twice and put out a console with a 50+% failure rate this time but I will still wait for a good while before handing over any hard currency.
The console industry was holding DX10 back and DX11...
Sincerely, if the industry was following the PC market, this wouldn't happen.
Still, do you really thing devs are going to code individual behavior for all NPC in a game? That is just insane and totally useless...
The current graphics on the PS3 and xbox 360 are pretty amazing and those were released like 7 years ago? I would hope that they would be able to make a pretty big improvement on image capablities in that time, given how quickly technology improves.
Also, to another posters point, the whole game doesn't have to be Avatar quality graphics... they might focus on cut-aways or something small for now and improve the real time processing to slightly less than avatar quality cinematics.
@Yargnit: Consoles are always better at utilizing the full potential of their hardware, thus Avatar level graphics might not be out of reach for the next Xbox.
Could anyone tell me why would anyone in his right mind thumb this guy down?I'm getting sick of intelligent comments getting thumbed down and hidden.
I was not all that impressed with the graphics in Avatar. Still way too cartoony. Probably less to do with the hardware, and more to do with the shift in the industry away from hiring artists who need to brush up on their computer skills, towards computer people who are being 'taught' art... Artistry requires talent, where using a computer requires skill... Can't teach talent...
Case in point: Jurassic Park STILL has some of the most convincing CGI I have ever seen. Much of this has to do with clever camera work and alternating between CGI and animatronics, but still, why do film makers have such a difficult time reproducing the greatness of the work done in good ole' 1993?
In fact, the only other CGI intensive movie I have seen with CGI that I have been able to suspend my disbelief since Jurassic Park has been the 1st Transformers movie, and that was only because the director was smart enough not to hold on a CGI scene for long enough to notice the unnatural CGI.
@Yargnit: Consoles are always better at utilizing the full potential of their hardware, thus Avatar level graphics might not be out of reach for the next Xbox.
If only we ran games @ 30 fps, no AA and.. 720p (lol, actually most are less..), it could use the full power of our PCs!
Total BS. The 3D models used in Avatar likely had 100 times the triangles of modern games. Plus they used a completely different rendering technology. Better graphics....maybe. Avatar level....no chance in hell.
Personally its great... thanks to MSFT there is competition against sony for high end game console... without them we would still be rocking PS2 graphics...
but we are getting to a point where game developers arent going to push these consoles to the limit cus of the sheer time and expense to do so
Silly boast to make... reminds me of Nintendo's claims of SGI-quality graphics on what ended up becoming the N64.
Ugh guys. I think the future is.... a console which brings you into a virtual reality world. E.g. the movie Gamer. Now that would be awesome. No more handling of controllers or mouse or keyboards, You a gamer? You better start working out and jogging everyday to be able to keep running on unlimited sprint in games. Accuracy problem? Time to train your arm muscles.
guns jamming? learn to clean your gun dang it. The future will blur the line between reality and virtual reality.