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AMD A10-6700 And A10-6800K Review: Richland Hits The Desktop

While we're able to run Tomb Raider at 1920x1080 using on-die graphics, we had to drop the quality settings as low as they go (except for keeping FXAA and 8x AF turned on).

Again, we see that HD Graphics 2500 aren't viable in a 3D workload like this. Also again, there's plenty of data in Chris' Core i7-4770K review to show that neither HD Graphics 4000 or HD Graphics 4600 can overtake A10-5800K. So, A10-6800K is probably safe unless Intel decides to enable its GT3/GT3e configuration on the desktop. The company currently has no plans to do this.

Mapping frame rates out over time simply gives us a little extra detail.

Although the variance between subsequent frames appears low in general, we found this title to suffer from noticeable stuttering. Perhaps it was simply a result of lower overall frame rates giving the perception of less-smooth performance.

Metro: Last Light is easily the most demanding title in our suite, requiring us to drop the graphics details to their lowest settings and dial the resolution back to 1280x720. Fortunately, the game still looks good at those settings.

A demanding benchmark sequence pushes frame rates under 20 at times, despite decent averages from the A10 APUs. The discrete Radeon HD 6670 doesn't do any better, and Intel's HD Graphics 2500 isn't viable at all.

As you can see, the APUs manage to maintain frame rates in excess of 30 for much of the test, but are pushed under 20 FPS in several cases. It's tempting to say that you'll see better real-world performance from this title, though we know taxing sequences like the built-in benchmark are when gamers most commonly decry the inability of their hardware to perform.

Variance between subsequent frames isn't bad, but we simply cannot get around the fact that the experience in this title suffers from frame rates that are simply low.

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    Novuake , June 5, 2013 4:39 PM
    VLIW4... Are you kidding me??? WHen is that gonna be scrapped...
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    esrever , June 5, 2013 4:49 PM
    Numbering has never been for the architecture inside the chips. They have always been marketing for the current line of products. Normal people buy a laptop, they see the number, they get the performance associated with said number and they don't care about the inside of the chip. Richland is just a trinity refresh with better power management and higher clocks.
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    griptwister , June 5, 2013 4:58 PM
    AMD, Good show! Now, release Kaveri Already! I need a new SteamRoller CPU!
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    tului , June 5, 2013 5:15 PM
    They say it's VLIW4 then say it's GCN. They can't be both can they?
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    songorocosongo , June 5, 2013 5:28 PM
    The 6800k is good, but I expected it to be a little more powerful.
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    Yuka , June 5, 2013 6:18 PM
    No temps with power metrics page? 8(
    I guess Richland is still very hot going by the power figures alone. Still, it's a good step up (and stop gap) for AMD.
    Nice review still. Are you guys planning on a follow up for Dual Graphics? 8)
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    kfronda26 , June 5, 2013 6:25 PM
    This is dumb. Still 6670 max card for dual graphics. Disappointing.
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    Wes Young , June 5, 2013 7:02 PM
    This is dumb. Still 6670 max card for dual graphics. Disappointing.

    No, since driver 13.1 even the 5800k was able to run dual graphics with a HD 7750. I am typing on a system with that exact setup right now. I am not sure if the 6800k will allow anything above the 7750 though. When I tried a 7770 with the 5800k I wasn't given the option to enable dual graphics.
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    slomo4sho , June 5, 2013 7:07 PM
    Couple days late but thanks for the review.

    Richland does appear to be just a refinement of Trinity. This review does explain why Kaveri desktop APUs are due to release at the end of the year.
    The A10-6700 offers similar performance as a stock A10-5800K, but offers greater efficiency. Unfortunately, it's also multiplier-locked. I have to believe that if you're willing to spend $150 on a 65 W A10 that can't be overclocked easily, then you're probably better off with a 55 W Core i3 that's also stuck in place for $10 less.

    I don't see why this argument is even made since both the 6700 and 6800K have the same MSRP considering that the only real difference in power consumption observed between the two chips was in gaming...

    The Intel chip's performance in single-threaded apps is exceptional. It holds its own in more parallelized workloads.

    Your final graph suggests that the overall performance of the i3 is within margin of error of the A8-6800K(for which you didn't even bother to provide overclock benchmarks)

    Lastly, can you confirm the MSRP? Your values seem to differ, other sources suggest $142 instead of your stated $149 (in fact, the pricing on all of the models seems to be off)
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    opmopadop , June 5, 2013 7:20 PM
    Can someone review this chip with the APU turned off and CPU cranked with liquid cooling (or crazy air). That higher RAM timing has to do something positive... I hope.
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    ingtar33 , June 5, 2013 7:46 PM
    so... you tested a chip that supports ddr3 2400 ram with ddr3 2133 ram... and no overclocking data? the A10-5800k already supported 2133 (maybe not officially, but it worked), the a10-6800k supports and works with ddr3 2400 ram, as other reviewers have noted elsewhere.

    Isn't this a tech enthusiast site? The few reviews I've seen out there claim Richland overclocks better, cooler and higher then Trinity. Furthermore, they claim the overclocked igpu performs at the level of a 6670... which is a huge jump in performance... as the 5800k, even overclocked and with fast ram, was only about 70% a HD 6670.

    where is the beef? Seriously i expected more from this site.
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    Nintendo Maniac 64 , June 5, 2013 8:41 PM
    Two things. First, I really think you should have thrown in a lower-end quad Intel CPU as well. From reading older reviews it seems that an i5-2300 is actually a second SLOWER than the A10-6800k in the TotalCode Studio test.
    Secondly, the comment that Kaveri will require a new socket is largely unknown at this point - all that's been revealed is that it uses an "FM2+" socket - who knows what that'll mean in terms of mobo socket compatibility.
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    envy14tpe , June 5, 2013 8:43 PM
    I still feel like the A10-x800 line is designed for only adding RAM, not a GPU. If you add a GPU then performance parallels (or falls behind in games) a i3.
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    tourist , June 5, 2013 9:18 PM
    This is dumb. Still 6670 max card for dual graphics. Disappointing.

    No, since driver 13.1 even the 5800k was able to run dual graphics with a HD 7750. I am typing on a system with that exact setup right now. I am not sure if the 6800k will allow anything above the 7750 though. When I tried a 7770 with the 5800k I wasn't given the option to enable dual graphics.

    Hurry call amd tech support and tell them you have managed to accomplished what there high paid engineers have been unable to do.
    I have no doubt that ccc is saying dual graphics option enabled but when you run benchmarks with it enable and disabled they are the same.
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    aibenq , June 5, 2013 9:23 PM
    why you not tested with HD7750... (/゚Д゚)/
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    ohyouknow , June 5, 2013 9:56 PM
    So this power consumption chart. Does that include the i3 with a 6670? or is that straight cpu vs apu? The gaming power consumption chart feels a bit wrong if it is running the i3 HD in metro w/o the gpu as that is misleading. Clarification?
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    rmpumper , June 5, 2013 9:59 PM
    Why not include G2020+HD6670 benchmarks? It would be ~the same cost as 6800K and I bet that everyone would want to know which setup is better.
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    abitoms , June 5, 2013 10:48 PM
    @ingtar33, does Richland chips officially support official DDR3-2400 RAM? If so, Toms should have tested with that RAM. However I think Richland supports 'just' 2133 MHz so that's what Toms has tested with.
    @Don, I have 3 queries for you.
    Does Richland crossfire with 7750 (officially or unofficially)? If it does, that is sure an interesting thing to explore.
    Also Don, yes even I've seen the figure of $142 floating around in other tech sites. Why do you quote it otherwise?
    Lastly, you 'could' have added the Core i3 with Radeon 6670 in the power consumption charts just to show the increased performance in games and other applications comes with the added power consumption of the 6670 if it is present.
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