DDR5 Specification Released: Fast RAM With Built-In Voltage Regulators

DDR5 RAM (Image credit: Micron)
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  • InvalidError
    Single DIMM now going up to to 4TB with DDR5 LRDIMM die-stacking? Wonder if Intel will still have an itch to charge extra for memory support beyond 1.5TB :)
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  • drtweak
    InvalidError said:
    Single DIMM now going up to to 4TB with DDR5 LRDIMM die-stacking? Wonder if Intel will still have an itch to charge extra for memory support beyond 1.5TB :)


    Right I was thinking the same exact thing. I have seen some PC's, although from a few years ago in the DDR3 Day on servers that have like 1.5 TB of ram. The whole chassie has like RAM Daughter boards ALL OVER THE PLACE! like there are dozens and dozens of sticks of ram. Now all that times 2-3 can fit on one single stick.
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  • PeterDru
    A few minutes ago "Drve platforms" now reads "Server platforms".
    It makes me wonder what are "Drve platforms"?
    And what other articles have been modified in the meantime... just like in "1984".
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  • Kamen Rider Blade
    Currently, with DDR4; using 2 Rows and Double-Sided + 2 GiB/RAM Package, they can only fit in 64 GiB per DIMM.

    You can buy 64 GiB DIMM Modules right now:
    https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611%20601349177%20601275379&Order=1
    If they go 1x Height DIMM Specs with 2 Rows and Double-Sided + 8 GiB/RAM Module, they should be able to fit in 256 GiB per DIMM.

    Remember these specialty "Double-Height" DIMM's?
    https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3462-zadak-32gb-3200mhz-double-capacity-dimm
    If Memmory Manufacturers go 2x Height DIMM Specs with 4 Rows and Double-Sides + 8 GiB/RAM Module, they should be able to fit in 512 GiB per DIMM

    But I would bet that would be limited to Enterprise setups at best. Only they can truly benefit from that much RAM.
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  • King_V
    I know this is more a corner(ish) case, but I'm wondering how AMD's APU graphics performance will be affected by this doubling of bandwidth.
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  • Kamen Rider Blade
    King_V said:
    I know this is more a corner(ish) case, but I'm wondering how AMD's APU graphics performance will be affected by this doubling of bandwidth.

    The Integrated Radeon Graphics should scale nicely with more bandwidth =D
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  • InvalidError
    King_V said:
    I know this is more a corner(ish) case, but I'm wondering how AMD's APU graphics performance will be affected by this doubling of bandwidth.
    DDR5-6400 will likely carry an eye-watering price tag for a while and not make much sense for a budget build. Performance-wise, it'll depend on whether AMD decides to scale up the IGP size to match. DDR5-4800 will likely be the mainstream speed for a while, so I could imagine AMD increasing the shader unit count by 50% on top of Navi IPC gains, which would translate to 60-70% net IGP performance gain.
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  • mitch074
    InvalidError said:
    DDR5-6400 will likely carry an eye-watering price tag for a while and not make much sense for a budget build. Performance-wise, it'll depend on whether AMD decides to scale up the IGP size to match. DDR5-4800 will likely be the mainstream speed for a while, so I could imagine AMD increasing the shader unit count by 50% on top of Navi IPC gains, which would translate to 60-70% net IGP performance gain.
    Could be, but previous benchmarks proved that past a certain threshold, iGPU performance didn't scale as well with RAM speed, number of unit notwithstanding (that was with 2x00G-3x00G IGPs) making me think that AMD would have to reduce latency between the APU and the RAM for these new throuoghputs to really show an improvement. Now they may already be there with Renoir, we'll have to wait a few months still to be sure.
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  • nofanneeded
    DDR5 comes equipped with the Same Bank Refresh function (SBRF), allowing the PC to tap into other banks while one is operating.

    Here we go again , more security holes by new hardware design.
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  • InvalidError
    mitch074 said:
    previous benchmarks proved that past a certain threshold, iGPU performance didn't scale as well with RAM speed
    You can't scale RAM performance beyond the point where you have ~100% core utilization and IGPs are under-powered by design because they have to leave a fair chunk of memory bandwidth for the CPU. Latency shouldn't be a major concern for GPUs since they have multiple mechanisms to hide. However, with IGPs, you cannot test the IGP independently from the CPU and the CPU is certainly far more latency-sensitive, enough so in most cases to explain away any IGP benchmark differences. You do get nearly perfect IGP performance scaling from single-channel to dual-channel and memory clocks across the budget-friendly range, which clearly indicate that IGPs are typically heavily constrained by memory bandwidth.

    (Well, it does vary quite a bit depending on the particular benchmark.)
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