System Builder Marathon, Q3 2013: $350 Bonus Entry-Level PC

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Case, Power Supply, And Optical Drive

Case: DIYPC FM08-W Black ATX Mid-Tower

As we checked out the cheapest enclosures, we thought we might be limited to microATX-based mini-towers lacking USB 3.0 support and cooled by one exhaust fan. By no means were we expecting one exceeding this build’s requirements for just $22.

The DIYPC FM08-W supports ATX and microATX motherboards, and has front-panel connectivity for USB 3.0, USB 2.0, and a pair of audio ports. It’s outfitted with not one, but two bundled cooling fans: a 120 mm intake and an 80 mm exhaust. With a mesh front bezel, it offers both the most room and ventilation for the money, by a long shot.

Read Customer Reviews of DIYPC's FM08-W Case

Power Supply: Antec VP-450 450 W ATX12V v2.3

While I don’t like to over-buy power supplies based on output, I think it's even worse to under-buy quality and risk the headaches of rail instability. Therefore, I didn’t even bother to look at cheap enclosures with built-in PSUs. Among the options available to me, the lowest I was willing to go was a 300 W unit from Sparkle priced at $36. But at the last minute, I made a change to accommodate upgrades and future-proof my build a bit.

Antec's VP-450, which has powered many of my gaming PCs, was only $4 more. The combined 30 A rating of its +12 V rails should let us upgrade to a mid-range graphics card down the road with enough wiggle room for tweaking today.

Read Customer Reviews of Antec's VP-450 Power Supply

Optical Drive: None!

As with our $400 mini-ITX PC from last quarter, this budget build forgoes the expense of an internal optical drive. Unfortunately, that means you'd need an alternate PC or external drive to read or write CDs, DVDs, or Blu-ray discs.

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slomo4sho

Nice choice in parts (unlike their mid/high end counterparts, the low end MSI boards continue to disappoint. Maybe consider Biostar, ECS, or ASRock in future low end builds) . However, those wanting to cheat can pickup a 750K with 7770 within $20-30 of the price of the APU for overall improved gaming performance. It is interesting what $40-50 can accomplish in these low budget builds :)
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internetlad

Have to admit, I like where this went. This is a little higher than a similarly priced build I was looking at for my brother in law about a year ago

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rolli59

Well throw in a HD7750 (can be had for $50 after MIR) and it will keep up with the $400 system in gaming. Since MIR do not count reduce the ram to 2x2GB (Q2 $400build) to offset the cost.
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pauldh

The promo is now back, so the A10-5800K was (for us) and is once again $110 from Newegg no rebates. We can't match that price too easy with HD7750/7770. Although as rolli said $50 after $30 mail-in rebate + a Pentium gets close (AR).

EDIT: My mistake! Actually this is a different promo. A $20 gift card. When we chose this part, the savings instantly removed $20 from the shopping cart total.
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sicom

So a $350 PC has better performance than an Xbox 360, and a $400 PC blows it clear out of the water. Cost of operating system not withstanding. I realize this console generation is nearly ancient history by now, but I still find that interesting, and perhaps because it's not ancient history yet.

Note of reference: BF3 plays at 720p @ 30 FPS at about medium'ish settings on 360/PS3.
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pauldh

11609414 said:
Nice choice in parts. However, those wanting to cheat can pickup a 750K with 7770 within $20-30 of the price of the APU for overall improved gaming performance. It is interesting what $40-50 can accomplish in these low budget builds :)

That must be a pretty big cheat. ;) But that pairing sure stymies the 6800K's appeal doesn't it.

You are so right, $40-50 more does wonders. We could make a fun poor man's marathon out of exploring that alone.$400/450/500 gaming faceoff? :D
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aggroboy

11609551 said:
So a $350 PC has better performance than an Xbox 360, and a $400 PC blows it clear out of the water. Cost of operating system not withstanding. I realize this console generation is nearly ancient history by now, but I still find that interesting, and perhaps because it's not ancient history yet.

Note of reference: BF3 plays at 720p @ 30 FPS at about medium'ish settings on 360/PS3.
You're using 2012-2013 components to compare against a 2005 console.
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itzsnypah

750K HD7750 4GB RAM and you have much better computer (overall and gaming) for the same price.

750K vs A10-5800K (CPU wise)
The same (except 750K no graphics to cool)

7750 vs 7660D
512 vs 384 shaders
GDDR5 vs DDR3
800Mhz vs 800Mhz

Did you even consider this or did you go into this budget with your heart set on an APU?
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pauldh

11609701 said:
750K HD7750 4GB RAM and you have much better computer (overall and gaming) for the same price.

750K vs A10-5800K (CPU wise)
The same (except 750K no graphics to cool)

7750 vs 7660D
512 vs 384 shaders
GDDR5 vs DDR3
800Mhz vs 800Mhz

Did you even consider this or did you go into this budget with your heart set on an APU?

That's an easy answer. The math simply didn't (and still doesn't) add up.

The cheapest 7750 was $85, the 750K was also $85. That's $170 when the 5800K was $110 with a promo code anyone buying one would have used to save instantly before checking out. The goal was $325 factoring that promotional instant savings.

And as mentioned in the text on page one, a 4GB mem kit saved only $10, meaning 750K+7750 was still $50 over, which is huge on a $325 budget.

Although, I knew before order time playing by the rules we'd call this a $350 PC. Hope that all makes sense.

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Memnarchon

The current APU costs $130. And the memory costs $50. Total: $180.
Now if you place an Athlon X4 750K 3,4Ghz for $80 or an Ivybridge Pentium G2120 3,1Ghz $70, using a HD 7770 for $90 and for memory 4GB (2 x 2GB) for $35 it will be total: Intel: $195 ($15 more) and AMD:$205 ($25 more).

Now for $15/$25 you can have double or more performance on games. Why to go with an APU???

edit: I actually read the article and didn't read all the comments.
But even if you choose not to go with 7750, according to Tom's hierrarchy chart the 6670 (even the DDR3 version) is still two tiers faster. And I can't remember even prvious month the 6670DDR3 to cost more than $60 (maybe less with some AR) So a 750K or a G2120 (or a bit lower) will still offer better performance at almost same price (the pentium will be the same price) with 4GB RAM.
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Case, Power Supply, And Optical Drive

Case, Power Supply, And Optical Drive

Power Supply: Antec VP-450 450 W ATX12V v2.3

Optical Drive: None!

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